Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Jurgens Smit]

Hey Guys,

 

How long does it normally take to break in shoes properly?

I recently bought shoes and the fit is perfect and super comfy when starting to run, its just still got that weird new shoe feel to it. Done 2 runs in them so far.

[IceCreamMan]

I have found modern day running shoes are run in from the word go. Never needed any wearing in

[shaper]

Also the same, never had to run shoes in... they generally feel a little different as the soles are a lot more springy and cushioning in comparison to my old worn out ones, otherwise nothing else.

Edited November 7, 2016 by shaper

[Fisan]

Hey Guys,

 

How long does it normally take to break in shoes properly?

I recently bought shoes and the fit is perfect and super comfy when starting to run, its just still got that weird new shoe feel to it. Done 2 runs in them so far.

 

Depends from shoe to shoe. My Salomon trail shoes for example take about 100km to run in (for the stiff sole to loosen up), whereas some of my other shoes (ASICS, Saucony) usually have more flexible soles from the start. Sometimes - if not most of the cases - its just about getting used to the shoe, rather than breaking it in.

[SwissVan]

So ended up running the full Soweto marathon... they would not budge on distance changes at registration, even for my wife who had a letter from her physio underlining her injury etc.

 

We really didn't want to miss out, having heard great things about the race vibe, so we decided to both just suck it up and see how we went on the day... 

 

Started with my wife and another running friend and set off at a very comfy pace just trying to conserve the legs for as long as possible - knowing full well the second half was always going to be a bit of a disaster. Had quite a few club mates around, so was nice to have familiar faces on the route a lot of the time as there were quite a few of us diving in the deep end with this one.

 

We did the first 10km a little quicker than planned, 1:03 I think it was and it was all going pretty well. I felt pretty good and there was no sign of my terminal calf injury, so happy days! My wife started to slow down around 13km's but I was pretty determined to just get her to half way so she could start 'counting down' the kilometers for the second half. Things got a bit slower, and then around 19km's I bid her farewell as I could see I was just starting to put unnecessary pressure on her as she was needing to walk quite often. I headed off to just get a qualifying time from there, knowing I'd likely be walking a good chunk towards the end too.

 

Legs actually felt great running a bit quicker, and I was hoping to catch a club mate up ahead to share the dark km's with, but around 28km's both my ITB's started flaring up something special and I had to start walking a bit - there were some tough climbs around here which didn't help either. So I ran/walked pretty much the last 14km's, walking most of the climbs between stretching out my ITB etc. Everything hurt pretty much though, feet, ankles, tight thighs, hamstrings etc - just your run of the mill marathon I guess! I was managing it well though and was on track for qualifying with 5 minutes to spare.

 

Only little surprise was when I realised I had started my watch on the start mat, not on the gun so I actually had 5 minutes less than I thought, and it suddenly was all a lot tighter than planned. I got over the finish though with a solid 19 seconds to spare on the official clock and 4:55 on my watch - perfect planning I say

 

Waiting at the finish for my wife, a club mate finished and told me she'd called it a day at 31km, she wasn't feeling well and had decided to wait for a sweep in the shade at a waterpoint. Standing at the finish line, supporting all the other finishers inside the Calabash, who would come charging in after 5:35 but my beautiful wife, gleaming ear to ear and shouting "I did it, I did it" - it was so awesome and it really was a proud moment for me. Her first marathon, a tough one, and one she wasn't nearly prepped for, but she fought off her demons and got the job done. Such an awesome feeling to share.

 

Race vibe was really awesome, the waterpoints very well stocked for the large part and the route pretty challenging as far as marathons go... Jhb is not flat. The expo was very small, so really not worth the travel out there to collect race numbers, but I'm pretty sure it will grow heading forward. A coke at the finish, a little more ice for the later waterpoints and some toilet paper in the loo's at the finish and you're looking at a pretty much perfect race. If I'm not doing Kaapsehoep next year, I will definitely be doing Soweto again - it's a special and iconic part of this country to run through 

 

 

Lekker man... unt Frau Steer  

[SwissVan]

Awesome reports chaps and ladies! WELL DONE on a good weekend of runs!

 

In your honour I did a marathon 4 and half hour surfing session up the West Coast at a decent point break on Saturday morning whilst you were all running and\or prepping for Sunday's Soweto effort! (Stayed in extra for you Swiss!    )

 

 

We had snow on our hills this weekend...time to get my board serviced

 

Or maybe buy a new one  

[Pieter-za]

Thanks Pieter.   Is it just on my side that the preious years is not working?

 

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I see Jackes  

[Pieter-za]

I see Jackes  

PS : Try this in the meanwhile to get an idea for Dec?

 

http://www.alsoranrunners.info/December14CG.htm

Edited November 8, 2016 by Pieter-za

[SeaBee]

Depends from shoe to shoe. My Salomon trail shoes for example take about 100km to run in (for the stiff sole to loosen up), whereas some of my other shoes (ASICS, Saucony) usually have more flexible soles from the start. Sometimes - if not most of the cases - its just about getting used to the shoe, rather than breaking it in.

Agree on this! My Saucony's was ready to roll with about 35k's (longest run of about 15) on them before I did Cape Town Marathon. And no (shoe) issues. Pretty confident that they'd have been just as fine with just 20 on them as well... 

Edited November 8, 2016 by SeaBee

[Jackes]

Running categories...   

 

Seems they changed somewhere, not that I knew what the old ones was, but the people running the clubs here is even not sure what is what and it seems I'm struggling with my google skills.

 

What is the different age categories and is it the same for road and trail?

[Jackes]

Agree on this! My Saucony's was ready to roll with about 35k's (longest run of about 15) on them before I did Cape Town Marathon. And no (shoe) issues. Pretty confident that they'd have been just as fine with just 20 on them as well... 

 

I see a lot of good reviews on the Saucony's.  You happy with yours and how do they look for milleage?   I fitted a pair and the only thing that bothered is they felt very narrow.

 

I'm just over 400km's on my Brooks Ghost 9's and being my first set it is difficult to judge what is left, but I doubt they will see 1,000km's.

Edited November 8, 2016 by Jackes

[IceCreamMan]

2 things...

 

1. At the Soweto marathon, every second ou/gal was a vitality club member including myself. This must have a serious negative effect on the traditional running clubs. Any ppl here members of other clubs and noticed a decline in membership due to Vitality or other reasons?

 

2. I read this morning some gentleman passed away in the 21kay event...RIP

[Hacc]

2 things...

 

1. At the Soweto marathon, every second ou/gal was a vitality club member including myself. This must have a serious negative effect on the traditional running clubs. Any ppl here members of other clubs and noticed a decline in membership due to Vitality or other reasons?

 

Apparently, clubs are upset about this, lots of emails flying around, and not just Team Vitality, but also Modern Athlete and other "virtual clubs". I know emails have been sent to CGA. Not sure if anything will happen as CGA is still getting the license fees.

 

 

2. I read this morning some gentleman passed away in the 21kay event...RIP

It is one of our club member's father. She ran the Kaapse Hoop Marathon, drove all the way back on Saturday to run the 21km with her Dad, who came all the way from Upington. He had a heart attack 2km from the finish. We are all devastated with her. 

[IceCreamMan]

It is one of our club member's father. She ran the Kaapse Hoop Marathon, drove all the way back on Saturday to run the 21km with her Dad, who came all the way from Upington. He had a heart attack 2km from the finish. We are all devastated with her.

Please send condolences and well wishes. Very sad to hear of this.

[ScottCM]

2 things...

 

1. At the Soweto marathon, every second ou/gal was a vitality club member including myself. This must have a serious negative effect on the traditional running clubs. Any ppl here members of other clubs and noticed a decline in membership due to Vitality or other reasons?

 

2. I read this morning some gentleman passed away in the 21kay event...RIP

 

I am a member of Vitality but have got my clearance letter and joined another club for next year. Its' sort of a "Virtual" club like Hacc alluded to, 32GI but they do however have runs together on weekends, unfortunately for me i moved away from where these runs ware being held (Glen Vista / Alberton). Will look at the end of next year to find a club to where i live (Meyerton, i saw Vaal Club but dislike the shoelace strap tops the guys have to ware, prefer the broader vest type ones).

 

The reason for me leaving TV was purely the fact that like you said, every second athlete is a TV member yet there is no comradery sensation, hell 99% of them don't even greet you as a fellow member. 

 

I saw that the amount of 32GI runners at events this year were very small so in hoping to achieve the sportsmanship sensation i moved over to them, plus they give discounts on their products to club members and i only use their products for the last 2 years for both cycling and running. 

[Fisan]

I see a lot of good reviews on the Saucony's.  You happy with yours and how do they look for milleage?   I fitted a pair and the only thing that bothered is they felt very narrow.

 

I'm just over 400km's on my Brooks Ghost 9's and being my first set it is difficult to judge what is left, but I doubt they will see 1,000km's.

 

I can recommend Saucony as a brand, but not necessarily as shoes for you. That's the part that only you could determine yourself.

 

Saucony has a good reputation for making fast shoes - especially the low-drop lightweight types. This includes road, trail, track and XC.

 

The one negative about Saucony (but many other brands are also guilty of this) is that they like to tinker with their designs, so the fit, feel and quality of a shoe often change from model to model.

 

They do tend to be narrow so might want to try half a size up. They have wider sizes in some of the ranges but I haven't seen those in SA. Half sizing could help with this but be careful to not leave too much space up front - you still want the forefoot area to flex in the correct areas. Specialist shops (read not Sportsmans') could help you with this.

 

Coming from the Ghosts, you can try something like Saucony's Triumph (expensive!) or Ride series.