Discovery Health - Vitality & Team Vitality plus everything else you need to know

[Vetplant]

 

 

EDIT: have just rechecked the criteria and they have changed since first published, one of the criteria was to run a half marathon in 2:30hrs (easy enough to do and which I would have qualified with)... now it has changed to 1:40hrs   (even the marathon has changed from 4:30hrs to 3:30hrs)

 

https://www.discovery.co.za/discovery_coza/web/linked_content/pdfs/vitality/vitality_high_performance_fitness_assessment.pdf

Yikes, they definitely changed te criteria significantly. I still make it, but barely, due to my surprising sub-3h time for the 947CC. The requirement was 3h30 for the 947CC about two weeks ago and now it is 3h00. That is a big step-up.

 

I would like to see all the metrics thay give you from the assesment before comitting. We never use up our savings so I don't mind in paying for this assesment from my MSA as long as there is actual value in it. So the jury is still out...

[Vetplant]

Yikes, they definitely changed te criteria significantly. I still make it, but barely, due to my surprising sub-3h time for the 947CC. The requirement was 3h30 for the 947CC about two weeks ago and now it is 3h00. That is a big step-up.

 

I would like to see all the metrics thay give you from the assesment before comitting. We never use up our savings so I don't mind in paying for this assesment from my MSA as long as there is actual value in it. So the jury is still out...

2142/15852 of male riders completed within 3h = 13.5%

4762/15852 of male riders completed within 3h30 = 30%

 

They basically more than halved the field of people that can attempt the High Performance Assessment. Not complaining, just saying it is a significant change in their requirements

[travisza]

For anyone curious on the new Fitness Assesment, this is what goes down during the assessment:

 

1.You do a full squat facing the wall, feet 10cm away from the wall, feet shoulder width apart facing outward. Your hands will be on the wall above your head. They just want to see that you can squat deep enough that your hips pass your knees.

 

2. Next is a lunge on each leg, making sure your knee touches the ground.

 

3. Pushup, pole lying on your back forcing you to keep everything straight.

 

4. Lie on your back, arms outstretched to either side and twist the hips to each side with knees bent, ensure the legs stay together through the motion.

 

5. Check shoulder mobility by checking how close your fists get to each other when putting them behind your back, one from the top with the other hand from the bottom. Similar to previous years.

 

6. Wattbike increasing ladder. You start at about 75W and your target increases with 25W every minute, so you either need to speed up your cadence or increase the resistance to match the target. You continue on this ladder until you either cannot sustain the wattage for the required minute or your Heart Rate goes above the pre-determined limit. The heart rate limit is calculated something like: Limit= 220bpm - (age*0.6). The Wattbike calculates your VO2 max at the end by taking all the relevant info into account and you get scored on that VO2 max score, not your top Wattage reading when the test was ended.

 

My perception of the test:

Step 1 to 5 are very simple to do if you are even slightly active.

 

Step 6 is where you can test your limit and really push hard to wee what you are capable of.

The highest step I clocked was 375W, there was no way I was doing the 400W step for a whole minute after that. VO2max came back as 56, which is significantly different from my Garmin Fenix 3 stats that sit at about 46 for both running and cycling.

 

I am very interested to hear what all of you dedicated cyclists can do on the wattage tests. The guy who administered the test mentioned the highest he has seen is 425W, so there is a target for you guys to try and beat

So you do a VO2max test which doesn't involve something that actually tests your oxygen consumption and then they score you on that? Sounds about right.

[Barry Stuart]

Inadvertently found a loophole in the Shoe Booster yesterday when buying shoes for my wife.

 

I bought her a pair of Brooks Glycerins, which she took one look at and told me to take back (in her defense I wouldn't want to put those fugly things on either). Returned them and found a set of Nimbus 18s at the yellow ticket sale for half the price of the Glycerins. Meaning I now had a credit that I could spend on anything in the store and Discovery would still pay me back the amount for the original shoes. So, theoretically, you can buy anything from Sportsmans Warehouse using the Shoe Booster.

[Dicky DQ]

And with the points included in the 30k for fitness, we'll get that if we meet our weekly goals (if we only do 900/week) in 34 weeks.

Can someone explain these limits to me?

How to earn Vitality Fitness points

 

* Earn 50 Vitality points for tracking between 5 000 and 9 999 steps in a day or 100 points for a 30+ minute workout where you are able to maintain 60 – 69% of your maximum age-related heart rate. These points will contribute to your weekly Vitality Active Rewards goal, but will be subject to a cap of 1 000 points per year towards your Vitality Status.

 

How to earn Vitality Fitness points for endurance and high performance athletes

*These points contribute to weekly Vitality Active Rewards goals but are capped at 1 000 points per year towards Vitality Status.

 

How to earn points for timed and verified race events (includes endurance and high performance athletes) Claim your points by logging into www.discovery.co.za>Vitality>Gym and fitness with proof of race completion with race certificate or other supporting documentation.

300 - 5-9km walking/running event 0,5-1km swimming event

600 - 25-49km cycling event 10-20km walking/running event 1,1-3km swimming event

1 500 - 50-99km cycling event 21-41km walking/running event 3,1-5,9km swimming event

3 000 - 100-179km cycling event 42km+ walking/running event 6km+ swimming event 180km+ cycling event

We also recognise our duathletes and triathletes with the full set of points per event discipline for example, earn 9 000 points for a full Ironman.  

 

*Adults can earn up to a maximum of 30 000 fitness points a year.

*Dependants between the ages of 12 and 18 years can earn up to a maximum of 20 000 fitness points per year.

 

Seems like you can only get 1000 fitness points for a year of activity, the rest you have to get from events - or am i missing something?

Edited January 27, 2017 by Dick

[Frosty]

Can someone explain these limits to me?

How to earn Vitality Fitness points

 

* Earn 50 Vitality points for tracking between 5 000 and 9 999 steps in a day or 100 points for a 30+ minute workout where you are able to maintain 60 – 69% of your maximum age-related heart rate. These points will contribute to your weekly Vitality Active Rewards goal, but will be subject to a cap of 1 000 points per year towards your Vitality Status.

 

How to earn Vitality Fitness points for endurance and high performance athletes

*These points contribute to weekly Vitality Active Rewards goals but are capped at 1 000 points per year towards Vitality Status.

 

How to earn points for timed and verified race events (includes endurance and high performance athletes) Claim your points by logging into www.discovery.co.za>Vitality>Gym and fitness with proof of race completion with race certificate or other supporting documentation.

300 - 5-9km walking/running event 0,5-1km swimming event

600 - 25-49km cycling event 10-20km walking/running event 1,1-3km swimming event

1 500 - 50-99km cycling event 21-41km walking/running event 3,1-5,9km swimming event

3 000 - 100-179km cycling event 42km+ walking/running event 6km+ swimming event 180km+ cycling event

We also recognise our duathletes and triathletes with the full set of points per event discipline for example, earn 9 000 points for a full Ironman.

 

*Adults can earn up to a maximum of 30 000 fitness points a year.

*Dependants between the ages of 12 and 18 years can earn up to a maximum of 20 000 fitness points per year.

 

Seems like you can only get 1000 fitness points for a year of activity, the rest you have to get from events - or am i missing something?

the 1000 points limit is for the 5000 steps and 60-69% part only.

 

You are missing part the points awarded for daily workouts between 70-79% and >80% at 30 and 60 minutes.

 

Also, a swipe at the gym gets you 100 points, and a park walk 300 on a Saturday.

[Pure Savage]

Inadvertently found a loophole in the Shoe Booster yesterday when buying shoes for my wife.

 

I bought her a pair of Brooks Glycerins, which she took one look at and told me to take back (in her defense I wouldn't want to put those fugly things on either). Returned them and found a set of Nimbus 18s at the yellow ticket sale for half the price of the Glycerins. Meaning I now had a credit that I could spend on anything in the store and Discovery would still pay me back the amount for the original shoes. So, theoretically, you can buy anything from Sportsmans Warehouse using the Shoe Booster.

 

So go in, buy the most expensive shoe that disco covers, then get the show you want plus some gels.

[Runbikeswim]

Inadvertently found a loophole in the Shoe Booster yesterday when buying shoes for my wife.

 

I bought her a pair of Brooks Glycerins, which she took one look at and told me to take back (in her defense I wouldn't want to put those fugly things on either). Returned them and found a set of Nimbus 18s at the yellow ticket sale for half the price of the Glycerins. Meaning I now had a credit that I could spend on anything in the store and Discovery would still pay me back the amount for the original shoes. So, theoretically, you can buy anything from Sportsmans Warehouse using the Shoe Booster.

Nope.. each swipe registered on your vit sportmans card.

 

 

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[Pure Savage]

Nope.. each swipe registered on your vit sportmans card.

 

 

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But, if he took it back with out the card, how would Disco know?

[Runbikeswim]

But, if he took it back with out the card, how would Disco know?

via the barcode on the price, its all linked.

 

Same way they control stock

 

 

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[Christofison]

Inadvertently found a loophole in the Shoe Booster yesterday when buying shoes for my wife.

 

I bought her a pair of Brooks Glycerins, which she took one look at and told me to take back (in her defense I wouldn't want to put those fugly things on either). Returned them and found a set of Nimbus 18s at the yellow ticket sale for half the price of the Glycerins. Meaning I now had a credit that I could spend on anything in the store and Discovery would still pay me back the amount for the original shoes. So, theoretically, you can buy anything from Sportsmans Warehouse using the Shoe Booster.

There is a purchase limit of R2000. Over 12 months they will pay you 75% of your purchase back. Therefore they will never pay more than R125/month.

Lucky find to get the old Nimbus on a good sale though.

[Barry Stuart]

There is a purchase limit of R2000. Over 12 months they will pay you 75% of your purchase back. Therefore they will never pay more than R125/month.

Lucky find to get the old Nimbus on a good sale though.

Yeah, if I'm honest I prefer my old 17s to my new 19s so was quite happy to pick the 18s up for my wife as she's burning through pairs prepping for Comrades.

 

On the shoe booster thing... if someone had no interest in running, could they not buy a pair of R2k shoes using the benefit, return them and spend the money on, say, a hydration pack instead? Discovery would then still be paying them back for hitting their (cycling) fitness goals each month.

[carbon29er]

via the barcode on the price, its all linked.

 

Same way they control stock

 

 

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Barcode is generic to an item range, not specific item. There is no way SWH and Discovery will know an item bought on the shoe booster has been returned without the receipt being processed or the card being presented for the credit.

 

They control stock by scanning, not customers.

[billygoat0523]

it seems vitality is receiving racetec results automatically now.  

 

did a 36km mtb on the weekend and  i never bothered submitting as a 25-49km event is only 300 points. 

 

 

ps -  really think they should distinguish between mtb and road events though as doing the same distance in a mtb race is a lot more effort. (on my part, any way)  and after all, their qualifying criteria for the high performance assessment distinguishes between the two.

 

[Jigghead]

Sometimes it feels like we're getting penalised for becoming fitter. Whilst I'm all for progress, I did a 2hrs swim on Sunday at a fairly lethargic 67% HR and only gathered up 100 points, based on speed.

 

I'm wondering why we would not be rewarded for a slightly longer workout in lieu of the additional exertion. I would suggest that provided it's above a certain level of exertion, we should start gathering points for longer workouts? The fact that I was not putting in much effort in this case was besides the point, I would just have liked to get maybe 200 points for the time spent "trying".

 

For all they know it could have been base training...

 

Thoughts?

Edited January 30, 2017 by Jigghead

[peds]

little off topic but my friends suck! none of them reach their weekly goals, I need new friends. If you reach your goal every week and looking for someone that also does send me a PM.

 

 I need two smoothies a week