BarHugger Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 Lucky I didn't hold my breath for the 'more to come, 1 more still, 2 names in the rumour mill stuff ....All in good time.....
Tumbleweed Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 Criminalising drugs in sport in SA? How? The Drugs Act seems to be more about stopping dependency-inducing drugs, so PEDs don't really fit in there. Medicine scheduling seems to be about who can sell or prescribe drugs. Would the "Hansie clause" in the corrupt practices act apply to doping? If so, nearly all the cyclists and commentators who have said they knew Evans has been doping for years could face possible prosecution...
RocknRolla Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 Perhaps only if obtaining prize monies fraudulently, one can be prosecuted... Andrew Steer 1
GLuvsMtb Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 One of the tragedies in this case is something like the Cape Epic.Kevin will not be allowed to be involved with anything Cape Epic in the future. He could have made a killing being a team manager, or he could have given some of his or the event sponsors some good race exposure participating non-competitively (I think back on Mannie on his fatbike, what a treat!). Instead he now can only watch from the side lines and the event cannot call on him to do any promotion of the event now that his reputation is tainted with doping.
Guest Lancesball Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 This picture seems so ironic in many ways. It was posted on Kevin's Instagram account the same time Rourke was caught and being pressured by authorities. 1st person to reply is Rourkes dad saying Rourke basically agrees and he will keep his mouth shut. He has to this day it seems. Amazing how Brandon Stewart and the rest of the "pack" come to Kevin's support when Darren has the balls to voice his opinion. When reading Darren Lill's posts, you cant help feeling sorry about the abuse he got in this post alone but now he has to be smiling inside. Shame on you. kevin_evans1#oldschoolcodereddotcroeserAt @rourkecroeser always says. "Correct"caca_evans1Love it ????actionman1982Is that what you really believe in @kevin_evans1@rourkecroeser to protect your own interests... Those that live in the darkness can't handle the light of the truth ????theomatthew13Hey @actionman1982Kev and I were rocking some old school ACDC in my complex late at night. 50year old lady upstairs sent that pic to me instead of complaining. Thought it was a cool pic!kevin_evans1Yo @actionman1982@theomatthew13 huh???bsbrandon5Yoh @actionman1982 one day when you grow bigger that 69inches and finished your period, maybe you might lighten up sometime! ????????????#whatajokecaca_evans1@bsbrandon5 ????????alicefreedman@bsbrandon5@theomatthew13 now that's what I call the light of the truth!!!!bsbrandon5Maybe needs to light a couple more candles to see the light ✌????️????????????actionman1982@bsbrandon5 maybe if I was on half the **** in your fridge I would grow taller, but the problem is that I'd end up with a squeaky voice like you and I wouldn't want that ???????????? I'd rather stay happily short thanks ????????eklootwykNot only do we lose to Japan but now we have some brain dead **** on social media @actionman1982eklootwyk@actionman1982 maybe you should win with your legs and not your mouth.bsbrandon5Witty intelligence at its best! ???? #braindead . Maybe one day you will find snow white and 6 other friends!bsbrandon5@actionman1982reddotcroeser@actionman1982 you jump to conclusions. It must be so **** to be so preoccupied. Get a life.maxknoxcyclingIt seems like yesterday we all sat down at dullstroom@actionman1982 @ftheron. What was discussed has clearly been forgotten. Strange as u had the most questions to ask @actionman1982 and clearly understood what had been discussed and the message that was being conveyed by the race organizers. Clearly what was discussed seems to have no bearing on your respect for the organizers of events/sport. All this could be discussed through the channels that where pointed out. perhaps now is the right time for race organizers to exercise there right of admission reserved for cyclists that bring the sport into disrupt and show that every action has a repercussion. You clearly have no other intention than to drag to sport through the mud in a public forum. It saddens me to bring myself to this point, u clearly have no idea what consequences ur statements and remarks have on the sport and future potential investors. Regards Maxalicefreedman@maxknoxcycling ????????aidanbearjewAhh this is such a cute little thread, just like @actionman1982 - Speaking of which, Bilbo Baggins called to say that the Shire is missing its designated village idiot. The little hobbit village from whence you came, demands your immediate return.caca_evans1Bwahaha @aidanbearjew u funny ???? intern, Andrew Steer, Pure Savage and 4 others 7
Guest notmyname Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 One of the tragedies in this case is something like the Cape Epic.Kevin will not be allowed to be involved with anything Cape Epic in the future. He could have made a killing being a team manager, or he could have given some of his or the event sponsors some good race exposure participating non-competitively (I think back on Mannie on his fatbike, what a treat!). Instead he now can only watch from the side lines and the event cannot call on him to do any promotion of the event now that his reputation is tainted with doping.No, all the events need to follow the epic' example. It's good for the sport. I'm afraid that if you buy the ticket, you take the ride.
BarHugger Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Criminalising drugs in sport in SA? How? *SNIP* https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-do/the-code Can Whiskey (or any alcohol) and smoking (the good stuff) be classified as prohibited substance in Golf/ Lawn Bowls?? Edited January 20, 2016 by BarHugger
BDF Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) I think one of the elements of fraud is missing. Currently the act of taking PEDs is not illegal in South Africa (so it seems). One of the key elements of fraud is that the act must be unlawful. The others all seem to get a tick though... From Justanswer.com: The following elements are required to be proved. Depending on whether you are dealing with a criminal case or a civil matter, the onus of proof will either be above reasonable doubt (criminal) or on a balance of probabilities (civil)1. An act by the person concerned;2. Committed unlawfully;3. With the intention to mislead another person;4. That causes the other person to act differently to what he would have acted, but for the fraud; and5. Only in the case of a civil claim, the claimant must have suffered harm or loss as a result of the fraud.Maybe this is why the authorities/sponsors don't take these matters to court in South Africa? Edited January 20, 2016 by BDF Tumbleweed 1
Pure Savage Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 This picture seems so ironic in many ways. It was posted on Kevin's Instagram account the same time Rourke was caught and being pressured by authorities. 1st person to reply is Rourkes dad saying Rourke basically agrees and he will keep his mouth shut. He has to this day it seems. Amazing how Brandon Stewart and the rest of the "pack" come to Kevin's support when Darren has the balls to voice his opinion. When reading Darren Lill's posts, you cant help feeling sorry about the abuse he got in this post alone but now he has to be smiling inside. Shame on you. S.png kevin_evans1#oldschoolcodereddotcroeserAt @rourkecroeser always says. "Correct"caca_evans1Love it actionman1982Is that what you really believe in @kevin_evans1@rourkecroeser to protect your own interests... Those that live in the darkness can't handle the light of the truth theomatthew13Hey @actionman1982Kev and I were rocking some old school ACDC in my complex late at night. 50year old lady upstairs sent that pic to me instead of complaining. Thought it was a cool pic!kevin_evans1Yo @actionman1982@theomatthew13 huh???bsbrandon5Yoh @actionman1982 one day when you grow bigger that 69inches and finished your period, maybe you might lighten up sometime! #whatajokecaca_evans1@bsbrandon5 alicefreedman@bsbrandon5@theomatthew13 now that's what I call the light of the truth!!!!bsbrandon5Maybe needs to light a couple more candles to see the light ✌actionman1982@bsbrandon5 maybe if I was on half the **** in your fridge I would grow taller, but the problem is that I'd end up with a squeaky voice like you and I wouldn't want that I'd rather stay happily short thanks eklootwykNot only do we lose to Japan but now we have some brain dead **** on social media @actionman1982eklootwyk@actionman1982 maybe you should win with your legs and not your mouth.bsbrandon5Witty intelligence at its best! #braindead . Maybe one day you will find snow white and 6 other friends!bsbrandon5@actionman1982reddotcroeser@actionman1982 you jump to conclusions. It must be so **** to be so preoccupied. Get a life.maxknoxcyclingIt seems like yesterday we all sat down at dullstroom@actionman1982 @ftheron. What was discussed has clearly been forgotten. Strange as u had the most questions to ask @actionman1982 and clearly understood what had been discussed and the message that was being conveyed by the race organizers. Clearly what was discussed seems to have no bearing on your respect for the organizers of events/sport. All this could be discussed through the channels that where pointed out. perhaps now is the right time for race organizers to exercise there right of admission reserved for cyclists that bring the sport into disrupt and show that every action has a repercussion. You clearly have no other intention than to drag to sport through the mud in a public forum. It saddens me to bring myself to this point, u clearly have no idea what consequences ur statements and remarks have on the sport and future potential investors. Regards Maxalicefreedman@maxknoxcycling aidanbearjewAhh this is such a cute little thread, just like @actionman1982 - Speaking of which, Bilbo Baggins called to say that the Shire is missing its designated village idiot. The little hobbit village from whence you came, demands your immediate return.caca_evans1Bwahaha @aidanbearjew u funny If I was Actionman1982, I would scroll back my in time line and ask a few questions... Jules, 428 others and intern 3
droo Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 Can Whiskey (or any alcohol) and smoking (the good stuff) be classified as prohibited substance in Golf/ Lawn Bowls?? I somehow doubt being grilled will make you better at anything besides competitive eating... Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Baaisikilist 2
BarHugger Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 I somehow doubt being grilled will make you better at anything besides competitive eating... Groooooovy man.......see that line and pot........... http://www.golfdigest.com/story/drug-use-on-the-pga-tour
BDF Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 Groooooovy man.......see that line and pot........... http://www.golfdigest.com/story/drug-use-on-the-pga-tourMore like: pot, then see that line...
BarHugger Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 ......but since Instagram and Golf has now been included in the thread...... https://www.instagram.com/_paige.renee/ (.....might affect riding time....) fandacious 1
BarHugger Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 This picture seems so ironic in many ways. It was posted on Kevin's Instagram account the same time Rourke was caught and being pressured by authorities. 1st person to reply is Rourkes dad saying Rourke basically agrees and he will keep his mouth shut. He has to this day it seems. Amazing how Brandon Stewart and the rest of the "pack" come to Kevin's support when Darren has the balls to voice his opinion. When reading Darren Lill's posts, you cant help feeling sorry about the abuse he got in this post alone but now he has to be smiling inside. Shame on you. S.png kevin_evans1#oldschoolcodereddotcroeserAt @rourkecroeser always says. "Correct"caca_evans1Love it actionman1982Is that what you really believe in @kevin_evans1@rourkecroeser to protect your own interests... Those that live in the darkness can't handle the light of the truth theomatthew13Hey @actionman1982Kev and I were rocking some old school ACDC in my complex late at night. 50year old lady upstairs sent that pic to me instead of complaining. Thought it was a cool pic!kevin_evans1Yo @actionman1982@theomatthew13 huh???bsbrandon5Yoh @actionman1982 one day when you grow bigger that 69inches and finished your period, maybe you might lighten up sometime! #whatajokecaca_evans1@bsbrandon5 alicefreedman@bsbrandon5@theomatthew13 now that's what I call the light of the truth!!!!bsbrandon5Maybe needs to light a couple more candles to see the light ✌actionman1982@bsbrandon5 maybe if I was on half the **** in your fridge I would grow taller, but the problem is that I'd end up with a squeaky voice like you and I wouldn't want that I'd rather stay happily short thanks eklootwykNot only do we lose to Japan but now we have some brain dead **** on social media @actionman1982eklootwyk@actionman1982 maybe you should win with your legs and not your mouth.bsbrandon5Witty intelligence at its best! #braindead . Maybe one day you will find snow white and 6 other friends!bsbrandon5@actionman1982reddotcroeser@actionman1982 you jump to conclusions. It must be so **** to be so preoccupied. Get a life.maxknoxcyclingIt seems like yesterday we all sat down at dullstroom@actionman1982 @ftheron. What was discussed has clearly been forgotten. Strange as u had the most questions to ask @actionman1982 and clearly understood what had been discussed and the message that was being conveyed by the race organizers. Clearly what was discussed seems to have no bearing on your respect for the organizers of events/sport. All this could be discussed through the channels that where pointed out. perhaps now is the right time for race organizers to exercise there right of admission reserved for cyclists that bring the sport into disrupt and show that every action has a repercussion. You clearly have no other intention than to drag to sport through the mud in a public forum. It saddens me to bring myself to this point, u clearly have no idea what consequences ur statements and remarks have on the sport and future potential investors. Regards Maxalicefreedman@maxknoxcycling aidanbearjewAhh this is such a cute little thread, just like @actionman1982 - Speaking of which, Bilbo Baggins called to say that the Shire is missing its designated village idiot. The little hobbit village from whence you came, demands your immediate return.caca_evans1Bwahaha @aidanbearjew u funny Are you the Theo fella ?
Tumbleweed Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) I think one of the elements of fraud is missing. Currently the act of taking PEDs is not illegal in South Africa (so it seems). One of the key elements of fraud is that the act must be unlawful. The others all seem to get a tick though... From Justanswer.com: The following elements are required to be proved. Depending on whether you are dealing with a criminal case or a civil matter, the onus of proof will either be above reasonable doubt (criminal) or on a balance of probabilities (civil)1. An act by the person concerned;2. Committed unlawfully;3. With the intention to mislead another person;4. That causes the other person to act differently to what he would have acted, but for the fraud; and5. Only in the case of a civil claim, the claimant must have suffered harm or loss as a result of the fraud.Maybe this is why the authorities/sponsors don't take these matters to court in South Africa? Sponsors could take dopers to court if they signed a no-doping agreement. But those would be civil cases not criminal. Edited January 20, 2016 by Tumbleweed BDF 1
Odinson Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 So, which riders are in Evans' orbit that are likely to be pulled into this mess, simply by association? A lot of talk about a certain recent racing partner of Evans being a prime suspect.
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