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It seems these killers are actually looking forward to their time in Pollsmoor. Not having the death penalty in SA is a green light for the most vile scum on earth to do their thing. And SA is full of this vile scum.

There is a lot of debate about the actual benefits of the death penalty. In fact I recall we had an entire thread dedicated that I think I started not to long ago. The long and the short of it is that the cost of keeping an inmate on death row is frightening and can be used much better in other means of crime prevention and rehabilitation... Or in sa's case.... Being stolen by cadres
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Incredibly sad story. Condolences to the family.

 

Last night decided to go for a walk as sleep eluded me.

 

Before I left my room, I contemplated leaving my wallet, watch, phone & everything else of value behind in the safe.

I shrugged it off, and took all of the above, and my camera with, so i really looked like a tourist. Turns out I had a super 3 hours walking through remote parts of town, photographing cityscapes at will. Greeting & being greeted on a few occasions.

No issue or insecure feelings.

 

The catch is that this took place in Singapore. I have done the above in London, Hong Kong, Guangzhou, Lisbon, Madrid, Ho Chi Minh, Thailand, Milan, amongst others.

 

I don't know what it is, but something is fundamentally wrong in Africa & South America, where I wouldn't dream of doing it.

 

Is it poverty? History? Education? Lack of self worth? Poor role models? Lack of proper authority? Maybe all of the above? I don't know.

 

What i do know is that this young lady never got to experience many of life's small pleasures, thanks to these 3 killers. They have probably done the same or similar before, as they seem to know the best retirement spots.

 

Our daughters deserve to know freedom. Real freedom. Not this shite we talk about in SA.

 

RIP young lady. I sincerely hope that your family finds a way to move forward & to love each other more, through this difficult time.

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Incredibly sad story. Condolences to the family.

 

Last night decided to go for a walk as sleep eluded me.

 

Before I left my room, I contemplated leaving my wallet, watch, phone & everything else of value behind in the safe.

I shrugged it off, and took all of the above, and my camera with, so i really looked like a tourist. Turns out I had a super 3 hours walking through remote parts of town, photographing cityscapes at will. Greeting & being greeted on a few occasions.

No issue or insecure feelings.

 

The catch is that this took place in Singapore. I have done the above in London, Hong Kong, Guangzhou, Lisbon, Madrid, Ho Chi Minh, Thailand, Milan, amongst others.

 

I don't know what it is, but something is fundamentally wrong in Africa & South America, where I wouldn't dream of doing it.

 

Is it poverty? History? Education? Lack of self worth? Poor role models? Lack of proper authority? Maybe all of the above? I don't know.

 

What i do know is that this young lady never got to experience many of life's small pleasures, thanks to these 3 killers. They have probably done the same or similar before, as they seem to know the best retirement spots.

 

Our daughters deserve to know freedom. Real freedom. Not this shite we talk about in SA.

 

RIP young lady. I sincerely hope that your family finds a way to move forward & to love each other more, through this difficult time.

Unfortunately, growing up deprived does not allow (in general) adequate feelings of self-worth, a d the value of others. Even if there was decent leadership, there would still be spill over from the past and current socioeconomic conditions. But it would be getting better, not worse. And the useless, corrupt, incompetent, racist, misogynist goons in charge have no understanding of their issues. I am talking of the United States, the Middle East and Europe, but I suppose it applies here too.

 

(I loved Singapore when I was there a few years ago... A perfect example of how it could be. If there were leadership, resources and a plan)

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This has been mentioned here...

 

S a f e t y & S e c u r i t y f o r Al l !
Address: NOAH Offices, Z96 Maxama Street, Site B, Khayelitsha, Cape Town
Tel: 021 361 8160
Website: www.sjc.org.za
15 March 2016
Att:
Major General JJ Brand
Khayelitsha Cluster Commander
Colonel T Raboliba
Harare Station Commander
MEMORANDUM ON SINOXOLO MAFEVUKA AND SAPS OPERATIONAL AND STRUCTURAL INEFFICIENCIES
1. On 2 March 2016 the naked body of 21-year-old Sinoxolo Mafevuka, a resident of SST section, was found in a communal toilet in Town Two, Khayelitsha. More than a week after the tragic rape and murder of Mafevuka no progress had been made in bringing the perpetrators to justice, extremely limited contact was made with the young women’s family, no updates were forthcoming and no counseling was offered.
2. The media then opted to report on "a tale of two cities". In this tale the differing responses from the South African Police Service (SAPS) to the tragic rape and murder of two young teenage women, one, Sinoxolo Mafevuka and the other, Franziska Blochliger (16), was covered. It is unfortunate that tragedies like these have been enlisted to draw attention to the known spatial inequalities that exist and persist in Cape Town. Below is a comparison of police to population ration and murder to population ratio of the two police precincts involved as they stand today (all numbers calculated using SAPS data).
Address: NOAH Offices, Z96 Maxama Street, Site B, Khayelitsha, Cape Town
Tel: 021 361 8160
Website: www.sjc.org.za
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3. We note, subsequent to a media outcry that the Harare Police Station has moved to rectify some of the operational issues raised above. We also welcome the announcement that two suspects have now been arrested.
4. Unfortunately, the structural inefficiencies that limit police in Khayelitsha, and other similar communities, in combating crime and ensuring justice remain.
The Khayelitsha Commission of Inquiry
5. The burden of crime faced by some of the most vulnerable people in our communities and the inefficiencies of SAPS were at the core of the Khayelitsha Commission of Inquiry’s work. The rights to life, dignity, equality and freedom, including freedom from all forms of violence, underpinned the original complaints by our organisations and others. 6. Operational inefficiencies identified related to: (1) visible policing, (2) detective work, (3) crime scene intelligence, (4) crime scene management, and (5) arrest, detention, and release of suspects. Key structural inefficiencies identified related to: (1) the SAPS human resource allocation system, (2) questions relating to the oversight of SAPS, and (3) the long-term failure of SAPS management at station, cluster, provincial, and national levels to address Khayelitsha’s policing problems. The inefficiencies listed, it was noted, were likely to have impaired the relationship between the community and SAPS in Khayelitsha.
Address: NOAH Offices, Z96 Maxama Street, Site B, Khayelitsha, Cape Town
Tel: 021 361 8160
Website: www.sjc.org.za
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Resourcing
7. The Commission found that the allocation of the police's human resources is inequitable, irrational and unjust. The distribution of SAPS resources between Black African and Coloured townships on the one hand, and historically White suburbs on the other hand resembled apartheid twenty years into democracy. This was based on evidence provided by SAPS and the testimony of former Provincial Commissioner, Arno Lamoer, who admitted that the inequity was “fundamentally irrational” and had to be reversed immediately. In this regard, the failure to provide qualified, competent, skilled and experienced SAPS personnel to Khayelitsha undermines the constitutional obligations of government.
8. Harare, Khayelitsha, the precinct in which Sinoxolo Mafevuka was raped and murdered, and in which many of our members live, was found, during the Commission, to be the least resourced police precinct in the Western Cape.
9. A second police station for the Harare precinct, to be built in Makhaza, was a provincial SAPS priority in 2004. To date construction has yet to start.
10. In relation to resourcing in the Detective Services in the three Khayelitsha Police Stations the Station Commander at Khayelitsha Site B Police Station, Brigadier Dladla, described the problem graphically when he said that in Khayelitsha, instead of a team of detectives descending on a murder as happens in the movies, “you have a team of dockets descending on a detective”.
11. Similarly Colonel Sonja Harri, the Provincial Co-ordinator of the Family Violence, Child Protection and Sexual Offences (FCS) Unit, testified to the systemic under-staffed nature of the FCS Unit in the Khayelitsha cluster.
Visible Policing
12. The Commission concluded that the failure to patrol informal neighbourhoods on a regular basis results, in part, from the lack of personnel at the police station, as well as from
Address: NOAH Offices, Z96 Maxama Street, Site B, Khayelitsha, Cape Town
Tel: 021 361 8160
Website: www.sjc.org.za
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the absence of a clear directive that sector policing should routinely include patrols of informal neighbourhoods, and operational guidelines as to how such patrols should be undertaken.
SAPS’ response
13. Despite a year-and-a-half of sustained attempts to meaningfully engage with the National Minister of Police on the Commission’s detailed 500 page report containing findings and recommendations, SAPS at a national level, and here we include Deputy Minister Maggie Sotyu, has failed to address these injustices.
Demands
1. Ensure that qualified, competent, skilled and experienced SAPS personnel, including police experts deployed from elsewhere, continue the ongoing investigation and gathering of evidence in a manner that will guarantee justice for Sinoxolo Mafevuka.
2. In keeping with Recommendation Six of the Khayelitsha Commission of Inquiry SAPS should issue guidelines that ensure professional visible policing in informal neighbourhoods.
3. The Khayelitsha Cluster Commander and the Station Commanders of the three police stations serving Khayelitsha must engage with SAPS at a provincial and national level to rectify the structural inefficiency that makes the allocation of police resources inequitable, irrational and unjust.
___________________________ at the Harare Police Station on 15 March 2016

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There is a lot of debate about the actual benefits of the death penalty. In fact I recall we had an entire thread dedicated that I think I started not to long ago. The long and the short of it is that the cost of keeping an inmate on death row is frightening and can be used much better in other means of crime prevention and rehabilitation... Or in sa's case.... Being stolen by cadres

 

Some would say the death penalty as it is served in modern times (keeping inmates on death row) is to soft.

 

For violent crimes like this justice needs to be much quicker and more brutal...eye for eye stuff...its meant to be a deterrent which in this case is clearly not the case (with accusers complaining about their cells and wanting to be transferred to a different facility)

 

The health and safety happy clappers wont allow it tho...pity

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I have been surprised about how intensely my two youngsters were affected by this particular murder of Franziska. They never met her, but they know lots of people, some very good friends in that same age group, who live there, and walk, ride and run in Tokai. They know Tokai like their own backyard, including where the murder happened, and they always felt safe there, and never hesitated to ride ahead of me, or to fall behind a bit. This has brought the harsh reality home to them and led to many a difficult question, not all of which, I think, I managed to answer correctly. If anything, people talking about life, death, and the reality of it, is a good thing that came from this horrible murder.  :mellow:

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http://www.2oceansvibe.com/2016/03/15/warning-it-appears-there-are-still-baddies-on-the-loose-in-tokai-forest/

 

Here’s that post in full:

BEWARE…Tokai Forest Parking
People, please still be very wary of Tokai Forest. Even though it’s busy, the rubbishes are still up to no good. I parked there around 1pm yesterday to take a dog for a walk. It was busy and I thought it would be safe.
Well…… upon my return to my car approximately 15 minutes later, I find a man sitting waiting in the backseat of my car. His friend was parked next to my car with his engine idling. I have no idea how they managed to disarm my alarm, but they totally messed up my lock.
I’m still in shock and I’m grateful that I had a very brave German shepherd with me who will remain my hero….. One would think that there would be more security allocated to this area, especially after the tragic incident earlier that week.
I am absolutely impressed with the fantastic service and friendliness at Kirstenhof Police Station. I managed to give a full description for the registration, make, model, colour, etc. of the car, as well as a description of the suspect seated in my car. I am unable to pass the information as this is a case that is pending.
This is just a warning to everyone to please be very careful. I don’t even want to think or imagine what could have happened to me had I not had my very brave canine by my side.

I guess we should all still exercise caution if we are going to frequent that area. It’s a sad state of affairs but unfortunately that’s the harsh reality…

[source:facebook]

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I see the Westlake community have named Farouk(ie) by name saying he is the local goto guy for crime, in this instance the drug pusher.

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start of change? Once those tannies make up their mind, there's very little that can be done to stop them. 

Looks that way. Not the first time I've heard the community taking a stand against those running rampant in the streets stealing from and terrorising the residents. Last guy the mob caught was lucky to survive I heard. He survived as "testimonial" to what happens to skollies. The description of "deurmekaar" is not far off from being true.

 

The cops on the other hand are playing peacekeepers. Seems odd that they get involved to control the community when they take a stand against what really amounts to... organised crime.

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Btw, for those who can make it, there is a woman against violence walk in Lower Tokai at 6pm this evening. :thumbup:  

The most cars I've seen at one event in all my life!! U2 would have been proud to have a turnout like that one last night. 

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