Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Bro, have you ever even seen a dirt bike?yes. Different application though. Dirt bike needs bigger rear tyre due to excessive power generation. We need burlier tire at the front for grip. We don't put out NEARLY enough power to warrant a burlier rear than front tyre. Likewise, wider front tire = higher volume = lower running pressures = more grip.
Odinson Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 yes. Different application though. Dirt bike needs bigger rear tyre due to excessive power generation. We need burlier tire at the front for grip. We don't put out NEARLY enough power to warrant a burlier rear than front tyre. Likewise, wider front tire = higher volume = lower running pressures = more grip. I disagree. When going downhill, it's important to remember that your bike's anti-squat has a prolific and exponential influence on the wattage of powers generated, allowing your rear wheel to generate more lateral grip than the front. Thus, you can get more grip from a wider rear tyre for downhill riding purposes.
Mr lee Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 No reason at all. It has smaller, shorter & more closely spaced knobs. Would not rate it as a front tire over the likes of the normal ardent or a minion or high roller. Awesome thanks Myles
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Awesome thanks Myles Is it better than a crossmark? Absolutely. But as a heavier fellow, I'd suggest something meatier.
Mr lee Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Sorry just one more thing....2.25 or 2.4 Ardent up front and why one would be better than the other?
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Sorry just one more thing....2.25 or 2.4 Ardent up front and why one would be better than the other?2.4 It's wider, so you can run it at a lower pressure, which improves grip characteristics.
Mr lee Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 2.4 It's wider, so you can run it at a lower pressure, which improves grip characteristics. Sharp
EkkeHannes Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 Not sure if I can jump in here ... My son rides for Monnas school MTB. It is technical with up hills and flats. Averages around 4.5km a lap and they do that in about 18min. The champs does it in 13min a lap. They are 16years old and ride with 26" bikes. What tyres would you recommend as I know nothing about MTB tyres ... ? I know wider in front for lower pressure and more grip and that is it. Thanks
arendoog Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 Not sure if I can jump in here ... My son rides for Monnas school MTB. It is technical with up hills and flats. Averages around 4.5km a lap and they do that in about 18min. The champs does it in 13min a lap. They are 16years old and ride with 26" bikes. What tyres would you recommend as I know nothing about MTB tyres ... ? I know wider in front for lower pressure and more grip and that is it. ThanksIf they are on 26",any tyre you can get hold off !! .I know of Continental 26 tyres avaliable ,otherwise Chain reaction cycles
stefmeister Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 Sorry just one more thing....2.25 or 2.4 Ardent up front and why one would be better than the other?The 2.4 ardent is basically an entirely different tire to the old 2.25 version. +1 on the ardent 2.4. Considering it as a rear tyre for myself. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Mr lee Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 The 2.4 ardent is basically an entirely different tire to the old 2.25 version. +1 on the ardent 2.4. Considering it as a rear tyre for myself. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I now run the 2.25 out back and 2.4 up front. The rear Ardent has stopped my back end from sliding out a few times now and also gives me a little more volume too. It does not roll as well as the crossmark or Ikon would at the back but I suppose I would take the grip over that any day....and it is a good work out for me too . I am not sure how they are going to be when I manage to get wider rims (in terms of frame and shock clearance) but will cross that bridge when I get there
NukeproofPeanut Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 Having ridden Conti, Schwalbe and Maxxis, on Gauteng hardpack and rocky (Hakahana/Helderkruin/Thaba), I stick to Maxxis!! Conti's (x king, M King): Really don't seem to hold up to my type of riding.Schwalbe (Rock Razor, NN, Hans): Grippy but the outside knobs feel soft when cornering hard and just don't seem to hold the line. Almost like they fold in. Maxxis: Harder wearing and hold up well to rocks and punctures!Currently Running DHF 2.5/DHR2 2.3 on the trail bike and DHF 2.5/Ardent 2.4 on the DJ. Really like the combos, but i'm switching the DHR2 for an Aggressor as rolling resistance is horrific The 2.4 Ardent is a really nice tyre and more than capable as a front for longer distance type riders who want more volume.
EkkeHannes Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 Having ridden Conti, Schwalbe and Maxxis, on Gauteng hardpack and rocky (Hakahana/Helderkruin/Thaba), I stick to Maxxis!! Conti's (x king, M King): Really don't seem to hold up to my type of riding.Schwalbe (Rock Razor, NN, Hans): Grippy but the outside knobs feel soft when cornering hard and just don't seem to hold the line. Almost like they fold in. Maxxis: Harder wearing and hold up well to rocks and punctures!Currently Running DHF 2.5/DHR2 2.3 on the trail bike and DHF 2.5/Ardent 2.4 on the DJ. Really like the combos, but i'm switching the DHR2 for an Aggressor as rolling resistance is horrific The 2.4 Ardent is a really nice tyre and more than capable as a front for longer distance type riders who want more volume.Thank you for the reply. I do appreciate it.
NukeproofPeanut Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 Thank you for the reply. I do appreciate it.Maybe to answer your question directly, from your description, I'd recommend you look at the 2.4 Ardent for the front, and something like the crossmark for the rear. It'll take a while for your son to find the tyres he likes though. It's quite a personal thing and depends on riding style, terrain and weight. Edit: Just to add, the wife rides Schwalbe 2.25 Rocket Rons Front and Back, and loves them, but she also weighs like 49kg's and isn't an aggressive rider by any means.. So ya.
Dieter ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 New tyres day! I'm going with the 2.35 3C/EXO/TR Ardent Race for the front and 2.20 3C/EXO/TR Ikon for the rear. Sorted for Gauteng winter!
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