Primer Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I feel your pain. Was also looking at a Santa Cruz Tallboy 3, but it's going to work out to be quite an expensive exercise. Would a 2x10 XT groupset work on a boost frame with regards to chainline?? I read an interesting article about american classic new boost wheels, and they have a completely different way of looking at it http://twentynineinches.com/american-classic-smokin-gun-wheels-intro/
Spoke101 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Hi, do anybody know if there is a way if and how one can still use old (new) wheelset in new SC Tallboy 3?Nope. On the back you'll need a boost compatible hub, and they don't make spacers for that. So it's a new hub for you, unfortunately. Spacers will not work as the disc brake mounts are further out, its new wheels or hubs, front fork and im guessing a crank with a bigger chain line Just found this http://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/boostinator not perfect but will work certain hubs.
raptor-22 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 the only way to stop all the madness of new standards is too stop buying new bikes. but who is strong enough to opt out of the system ?
Odinson Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Ultimately, everyone can piss and moan until the cows come home. These new "standards" are coming hot 'n fast and there's not much the consumer can (or will do). So, if you're looking for a new mid-to-top end bike (particularly 29ers and + bikes), chances are it will have Boost spacing at the back and possily at the front.
Headshot Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 the only way to stop all the madness of new standards is too stop buying new bikes. but who is strong enough to opt out of the system ?Thanks to our tanking currency many of us will have to...
Skinnyone Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 My point was about the fact that all of the items I mentioned got super-ceded by newer "standards" - for example:The uproar when the industry went from 7 speed to 8 speed and then 9 and 10 speed...The uproar when handle bar centers went from 25.4 to 31mm....The uproar when disc brakes started breaking onto the market and the mountings that they came with...The uproar when threaded headsets became the newer "A-Headset" or "thread-less headset"...The uproar when a tapered steerer tube came on the scene... All now fairly common "standards" that you wouldn't have had the frustrations of dealing with if you weren't from the 90's MTB scene...Boost is a new thing yes, but its most likely here to stay whether you "buy into it" or not...
NicoBoshoff Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Just run Boost in the rear, since that's where the traction gain will be useful. Those fattie tyres in front are like bouncy balls.
Reden Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 My point was about the fact that all of the items I mentioned got super-ceded by newer "standards" - for example:The uproar when the industry went from 7 speed to 8 speed and then 9 and 10 speed...The uproar when handle bar centers went from 25.4 to 31mm....The uproar when disc brakes started breaking onto the market and the mountings that they came with...The uproar when threaded headsets became the newer "A-Headset" or "thread-less headset"...The uproar when a tapered steerer tube came on the scene... All now fairly common "standards" that you wouldn't have had the frustrations of dealing with if you weren't from the 90's MTB scene...Boost is a new thing yes, but its most likely here to stay whether you "buy into it" or not...31mm Is old. 35mm is the new black.Boost will become "the thing" depending on the sales pitch and the only thing you can get. Similar to 29" with "You will be faster or win more races"Yes there are pros and cons of everything but the builders should at least give us a choice.
Mongoose! Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/12/31/un-boost-your-bike-with-d-fenders-spacer-kit-for-142mm-rear-hubs/
Eddy Gordo Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I thought you were pulling my leg, until I read this: http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-gear/dedicated-26-mountain-bikes-and-27-5-to-26-conversions-are-gaining-momentum/so does that mean my 26er is no longer 26er but a 26+Man I knew they will never get rid of 26 wheels, its way too great.
dev null Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Thanks to our tanking currency many of us will have to... Yes. Who has R195k for a new Cannondale Scalpel. It's farking madness. Plastic and wheels that cost more than some small sized cars. And Specialized are still too announce their pricing for their 2017 lineup. Expect the S-Works Epic to be about R190k.
Skinnyone Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Just run Boost in the rear, since that's where the traction gain will be useful. Those fattie tyres in front are like bouncy balls.The term boost refers to the axle width being 148mm the boost hub can be built onto any rim you want, I think what you are referring to in terms of traction is the "other new standard" being 26+ which is a fatter rim and tyre but not a full on fat bike...
raptor-22 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Yes. Who has R195k for a new Cannondale Scalpel. It's farking madness. Plastic and wheels that cost more than some small sized cars. And Specialized are still too announce their pricing for their 2017 lineup. Expect the S-Works Epic to be about R190k.Rumor has it at R205k.... madness never stops when it has enough fools to fuel it. Like all bubbles, it will burst
Headshot Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Rumor has it at R205k.... madness never stops when it has enough fools to fuel it. Like all bubbles, it will burstYa, just like the ANC and Zuma... You just started that rumour man :-) I bet you a decent 26" Am tyre that the Epic is under R200k. Not that it makes much difference...
Underachiever Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Marketing BS so they can make more money,bunch of us were talking yesterday and we all think that 26er will make a comeback when all the other avenues have dried up for them to make money.Agree It was quite rewarding to leave a number of guys eating my dust at the recent Sani. I was on a 26 Alu frame with a Reba fork, XT gruppo. They were on the Carbon Spez'es with the RS-1 forks. Carbon Wheels That fork is worth more than my bike!!!
Odinson Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Agree It was quite rewarding to leave a number of guys eating my dust at the recent Sani. I was on a 26 Alu frame with a Reba fork, XT gruppo. They were on the Carbon Spez'es with the RS-1 forks. Carbon Wheels That fork is worth more than my bike!!! Cool story, bro!
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