Patchelicious Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 It's cool Patch. We both know you can't have a judgement here, without someone playing the man (or woman for that matter) at some point. There's a moving scale of objectivity and subjectivity that keeps dynamically altering in this here world!She was disqualified yesterday.....
Tubehunter Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Jippee, we are racing again. (Don't mind me, continue your squabbling) 13:23 Attacks from the gunThomas Voeckler is first on the move. Thomas De Gendt and Philippe Gilbert are among the other attackers. Peter Sagan finding the early pace so manageable he is sitting up in cruise mode (in the back of the team car....) fixed....
Pure Savage Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 De Gent trying to get into the break again, that guy must be the new Voigt.
Vetplant Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Team DD putting all their eggs into breakaways from now onwards?
Pure Savage Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Jan Bakelants (Ag2r La Mondiale), Mickael Delage (FDJ), Edvald Boasson Hagen (Dimension Data), Dylan van Baarle (Cannonale-Drapac), Pierre-Luc Perichon (Fortuneo-Oscaro), Thomas Voeckler (Direct Energie), Philippe Gilbert (Quick-Step Floors) and Thomas De Gendt (Lotto Soudal) have established a lead of 15 seconds over the peloton, and it looks as though they have been granted their freedom.
Pure Savage Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Team DD putting all their eggs into breakaways from now onwards?That was their plan in the mountains anyway.
Tubehunter Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Team DD putting all their eggs into breakaways from now onwards? You would think after Cavendish cleared all the barriers for them... (Too soon?)
Gen Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Patch, I think everyone who saw it at real world speed first time round, had to have thought it was a douche move by PS. The co-incidence of the movements all appeared to make it look deliberate. I was shouting at the TV when I first saw it myself. Had to slow everything down to get some better views and work out how it all went down. Imagine that was the case for everyone except those who have personally lived the highly charged sprint finish at this level!Yip.. it looked very very bad in real time. People must understand that we all can agree it was a messy chaotic sprint a lot of factors caused things to go bad really fast.. the thing is we aren't saying he shouldn't have been punished but that the DQ was very harsh. And remember initially they docked points and relegation. .which is tough but okay that's fair punishment..BUT DDD were not happy with that and insisted on DQ.. (I hink it was Hammond from DDD) I will also say that the UCI saw this is a golden opportunity to come across as tough on safety as there is an election coming up soon and Cookson is under a lot of pressure with all the scandal surrounding British Cycling and his part in that and how he has not acted on safety.. what golden opportunity this is to show the world. . See we will punish the biggest star.. .. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
Gen Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 And with that I am out..enjoy the racing everyone. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
Vetplant Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Flip, that is a nice strong group, right size and composition. Probably have a 0% chance of reaching the finish line though, seeing as it is a CAT 1 mountaintop finish...
Bonus Posted July 5, 2017 Author Posted July 5, 2017 Flip, that is a nice strong group, right size and composition. Probably have a 0% chance of reaching the finish line though, seeing as it is a CAT 1 mountaintop finish...
Sepia Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 I think you make a good point there Gen.I would like to see if this will be the benchmark though.
nochain Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 I agree with your post, especially the 3 points raised! But on the highlighted part, I do differ a bit. When this first happened, I was of the opinion that Sagan was at fault, I even Tweeted as much. But through the presentation of these facts and subsequent opinions of the Pros, I changed my opinion.You changed your mind on it being his fault or about the severity of what he had done?I think mostly it is best to watch at real speed..they don't race and make decisions frame by frame or in slow motion. To me he is at fault...There is no doubt he move into Cav's line and closed him down.Did he see him..Not really that relevant to me as that will only indicate malicious intend.He had to get onto Demare's wheel to have a chance to win and he went for it full on.Was it overly aggressive and dangerous...NO.. not more than what we see almost everyday in the big sprints.
Patchelicious Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 And with that I am out..enjoy the racing everyone. Sent from my SM-N9005 using TapatalkAlso into girls now?
nochain Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Well one think about the Sags insident is we have had people on this tread over the last day that I have never seen on the racing topics before!!Now just stay with us for the rest of the tour and keep on adding your 3cents...????
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