The Classics

[J Wakefield]

Commentators went on about 4000m ascent but Willie's Smit Strava is just over 3k which seems more believable

 

Unless Willies Garmin reset when he was showing the motoman his wattage

 

 

3250-3300m is what I have gotten on files from riders yesterday on team.

['Dale]

????

 

Enjoy

[Vetplant]

At the ladies race on Sunday, did the moto in front of Niewiadoma not stay way too close ahead of her all the way from cresting that final climb up until the final kilometer? There was not such moto for Van Vlueten who was chasing her.

 

I remember someone like GCN did a simple test and found a significant drag reduction with a moto even 25m up the road...

 

I know those motos give us TV viewers the best pictures, but maybe they should be way further up the road or then behind the chaser?

Edited April 22, 2019 by Swift&Aero

[Long Wheel Base]

I found this on twitter with the caption "The world tour peloton right now"

[Jensie]

What a contrast to the usual finger pointing and sad "they did not want to work together" stories from the usual suspects. The kid was pulling that 3d bunch for most of the last 5km. Yes, the cat and mouse tactics helped him, but he also made his own luck.

I think he raced that last 5km asif in a CX race. Balls to wall with only one one thing in mind. The finish line, There is no help in CX so he done what he knows best - - - do it alone. Hugh respect. 

[Shebeen]

How. The. F*ck.

 

That victory defied cycling laws ⚠️

I finally got to watch the finale again.

https://tiz-cycling.racing/videos/amstel-gold-race-2019-last-25-km/

 

not a lot of coverage on the chase from the final 10km, would be very interesting to see if they release a second edit of this as they would have the footage of all groups.

 

I'm a sailor, and race tactics are hugely important in yachtracing. Both in how you position yourself against other boats, and in being able to read windshifts favouring either side of the course (luckily we don't deal with tide locally. It is normally the fastest/best sailed boat that wins but as the race course is not a track you need to keep your eyes open all the time.

We have a saying however, that "boatspeed makes you look like a tactical genius". If you're sailing fast you can make small tactical errors and no one will notice.

 

In watching this again, it just feels like MvdP got his tactics all wrong*. He attacked at 44km to go, couldn't follow JA/JF but was clearly still feeling good after 250km+ racing in his legs. He just sat in the group recuperating whilst bora/EF led the main chase hovering at 1min. He didn't attack on the Caulberg, but the winning move was basically attacking on the bemelberg with 7km to go, TT to the finish by emptying the tank - to still have the legs to beat all the riders upfront and the guys he towed all the way - insane....can only imagine how good he is going to be** with a decent team and some tactical nous?

 

*limitless watts makes you look like a tactical genius

**assuming he wants to race on the road more

[Vetplant]

So is Allaphillipe continuing his amazing season where he has won every 1day race he has partaken in, except for the ones that Van Der Poel wasn't also riding in?

 

Or will Valverde take it?

 

Other outside hopefuls worth mentioning? How about a Ben King victory...

[dsw]

So is Allaphillipe continuing his amazing season where he has won every 1day race he has partaken in, except for the ones that Van Der Poel wasn't also riding in?

 

Or will Valverde take it?

 

Other outside hopefuls worth mentioning? How about a Ben King victory...

 

How about Dan Martin or Michael Woods or even Adam Yates as an outsider? 

 

I doubt whether Ben King will make it. The best bet for TDD is probably Kreutzinger with Gasparotto as very long shot.

 

Kwiatkowski is also in obvious good form but might hold something back for the weekend.

['Dale]

Sagz Baby and one super duper fan

Gen, take note

 

Pic Kristof Ramon

 

[DieselnDust]

I finally got to watch the finale again.

https://tiz-cycling.racing/videos/amstel-gold-race-2019-last-25-km/

 

not a lot of coverage on the chase from the final 10km, would be very interesting to see if they release a second edit of this as they would have the footage of all groups.

 

I'm a sailor, and race tactics are hugely important in yachtracing. Both in how you position yourself against other boats, and in being able to read windshifts favouring either side of the course (luckily we don't deal with tide locally. It is normally the fastest/best sailed boat that wins but as the race course is not a track you need to keep your eyes open all the time.

We have a saying however, that "boatspeed makes you look like a tactical genius". If you're sailing fast you can make small tactical errors and no one will notice.

 

In watching this again, it just feels like MvdP got his tactics all wrong*. He attacked at 44km to go, couldn't follow JA/JF but was clearly still feeling good after 250km+ racing in his legs. He just sat in the group recuperating whilst bora/EF led the main chase hovering at 1min. He didn't attack on the Caulberg, but the winning move was basically attacking on the bemelberg with 7km to go, TT to the finish by emptying the tank - to still have the legs to beat all the riders upfront and the guys he towed all the way - insane....can only imagine how good he is going to be** with a decent team and some tactical nous?

 

*limitless watts makes you look like a tactical genius

**assuming he wants to race on the road more

 

 

I wouldn't say he got his tactics all wrong. He had an Astana rider (i forget the name.....-  Izigeura?) who appeared to just be happy to counter the move and sit there. Pointless dragging a dead weight along for the ride so He sat up and regrouped. Probably realising he's being marked so he needed to re-evaluate his options.

to me it looks like he basically said, whatever break goes to close down the leaders, I've got to be in it. To do that he needed to have full visibility of the riders with him and therefore sat futher back. It was a relatively small group so sitting back isn't as big a disadvantage as sitting half way down a large peloton. Somewhere Between 8km to go and 7km to go there's a renewed impetus from the small group he's with and he's leading it so the assumption is he drove it. Bardet also tried to spark some chase and remember Simon Clark also left that group earlier on and pricked up Trentin. 

By the time MVDP took to the front the others went spent from trying to cover each other. He let them wears themselves down.

I';ve watched how he plays van Aert in CX. Similar game plan

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UCI_WWT‏ @UCI_WWT 3m3 minutes ago

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23 km: Attack! 6 riders are trying to break away now, and the race is on again! #UCIWWT #FWWomdn

Womens race reaching the business end, get to a TV or start up that live stream boys, this might be fun to watch...

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21 km: 4 riders have a 8“ gap now: J. Korevaar @CCCLivTeam E. Balsamo @ValcarCylance R. Winder @TrekSegafredo O. Shekel @astanawomen #UCIWWT #FWWomen

[Shebeen]

I wouldn't say he got his tactics all wrong. He had an Astana rider (i forget the name.....-  Izigeura?) who appeared to just be happy to counter the move and sit there. Pointless dragging a dead weight along for the ride so He sat up and regrouped. Probably realising he's being marked so he needed to re-evaluate his options.

to me it looks like he basically said, whatever break goes to close down the leaders, I've got to be in it. To do that he needed to have full visibility of the riders with him and therefore sat futher back. It was a relatively small group so sitting back isn't as big a disadvantage as sitting half way down a large peloton. Somewhere Between 8km to go and 7km to go there's a renewed impetus from the small group he's with and he's leading it so the assumption is he drove it. Bardet also tried to spark some chase and remember Simon Clark also left that group earlier on and pricked up Trentin. 

By the time MVDP took to the front the others went spent from trying to cover each other. He let them wears themselves down.

I';ve watched how he plays van Aert in CX. Similar game plan

You mean his CX plan B?

 

the usual routine is

gun:full gas

first lap: establish gap

second lap extend gap

next lap lap:if gap is small(extend gap) else (maintain gap)

final lap: chill, get ready for finishline salute

[Vetplant]

 

UCI_WWT‏ @UCI_WWT 3m3 minutes ago

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23 km: Attack! 6 riders are trying to break away now, and the race is on again! #UCIWWT #FWWomdn

Womens race reaching the business end, get to a TV or start up that live stream boys, this might be fun to watch...

 

 I see now SuperSport thought we would rather watch Toyota Cadence AGAIN than watch AMP possibly compete for the win in a Spring Classic... Thanks

 

Mens broadcast starts at 14h20...FYI

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UCI_WWT‏ @UCI_WWT 2m2 minutes ago

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8 km: @aliACTIONjackso is caught as Niewiadoma attacks. #UCIWWT #FWWomen

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UCI_WWT‏ @UCI_WWT 15s15 seconds ago

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7 km: 13 riders are left at the front after Niewiadoma‘s attack: van der Breggen, Langvad, Vos, Moolman-Pasio, van Vleuten, Spratt, Ludwig, Niewiadoma, Canellas, Paladin, Neff, Vollering, Vandevelde. #UCIWWT #FWWomen