Rick Sanchez Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 It grates my chops too when people have an over estimated view of their power as a consumer, particularly if they have not approached the retailer first. Its like people watched the "United breaks guitars" YouTube clip once too often. Social media is full of people shouting "boycott". Remember when everyone boycotted Woolworths on a Thursday because they apparently don't employ white people, only to go back on that Sunday after church because its too much trouble to make a malva pudding from scratch?I agree with what you are saying here, as I think people are too sensitive in general these days. It's as if people cannot be happy and have to find fault with everything and complain about everything. I do, however, believe that you have all the power as the consumer, seeing as that is why businesses exist, to make money off of the consumer.
Patchelicious Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 No, that's not factually correct and simply pure speculation on your part. One is free to sell below, at, or above RRP. Any of those choices by a reseller do not result in banishment.And when we start wondering into the realm of stores all agreeing to "respect" the RRP.... It's murky.
TK-Sp3cialiSt Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 No, that's not factually correct and simply pure speculation on your part. One is free to sell below, at, or above RRP. Any of those choices by a reseller do not result in banishment.Depends on the company, having had a retail store(not bike related), i advertised items below a certain companies RRP, and was told if i sold at that price they would stop supplying products to me(not even my supplier, but the manufacturer)
The expat cyclist Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 I just bought tyres from evo. And a BB.#whatyoutakingaboutwillis?
Dicky DQ Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 No, that's not factually correct and simply pure speculation on your part. One is free to sell below, at, or above RRP. Any of those choices by a reseller do not result in banishment.OK then, nice to know you still believe father Christmas, the Easter bunny, tooth fairy et al. Yes you are "free to sell" below RRP without consequences till they find out. It is also not factually incorrect and not pure speculation. But you are entitled to your opinion. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
TK-Sp3cialiSt Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 And when we start wondering into the realm of stores all agreeing to "respect" the RRP.... It's murky. RRP should be used by the manufacturer to advertise on their website, in a free market, retailers should be allowed to sell at cost if they want, should have nothing to do with the supplier once it leaves their truck/offices.
Boerklong Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 So you bring it in cheaper than anyone else, you advertise it for more than everyone else then put it on a special with a moerse 48% discount to be cheaper than the rest.
Hairy Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 No, that's not factually correct and simply pure speculation on your part. One is free to sell below, at, or above RRP. Any of those choices by a reseller do not result in banishment.makes me think of a long lost lbs in ct who had a certain bike brand removed from their show rooms and was told they were not going to be supplied the said brand anymore as other lbs' so down the road were complaining that the great lbs was selling bikes below rrp. Anyway, legal eagles got involved and the brand was quickly back at the lbs.
Christian van Zyl Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 ?? Hu? Setting a RRP IS effectively price fixing, because if you don't comply you become banished to the sidelines and struggle to get stock. Omerta ........ MAP - Minimum Advertised Price In my opinion this is okay. You effectively protect your brand against online battles. The store can sell the item to a customer at a price he wishes, but not advertise it at any price. They guy who want's to do bargaining for a week between stores are welcome to do so on the same principle as CycleLab's "We beat any written quote" There also shops, mainly closed on Fridays that will also beat any price.
ZakAttak Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 I will continue to buy where prices are cheaper... be it online or in a brick and mortar type store I prefer to do all my maintenance myself so thus no need for a special "walk in" type store... That said, I have only ever received good service from most bike shops I supported over the years but that's mainly down to me researching a product, knowing what I want and avoiding the substitute on offer if the said bike shop does not have what I want! Most of the bike shops sales staff are clueless when it comes to offering advice or product information... The cheapest on offer gets my money!
Shebeen Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 The way I see it. In the beginning, you had your bricks and mortar options only. They had to balance stock, pricing and loyalty/vibe. They mainly got their stuff from official channels and had to fit inline with that system. Then CRC etc al came in and all of a sudden we had the options of much wider range at considerably better price. If you wanted to wait, the world was your oyster. The local online stores fit in between here. Free market principles apply, and the best should survive I'm going to give the OP the benefit of doubt and day his post is genuinely curious. It could be his perception, or they could really be adjusting their operating margins/business model. Either way, it's up to the business to decide if they want to engage or not in the discussion. If they don't want to, then it's just really going to be a dead horse flogging
ChrisF Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 I will continue to buy where prices are cheaper... be it online or in a brick and mortar type store I prefer to do all my maintenance myself so thus no need for a special "walk in" type store... That said, I have only ever received good service from most bike shops I supported over the years but that's mainly down to me researching a product, knowing what I want and avoiding the substitute on offer if the said bike shop does not have what I want! Most of the bike shops sales staff are clueless when it comes to offering advice or product information... The cheapest on offer gets my money! ouch .... thankfully NOT correct. Cycle4Life - Danie KNOWS his stuff !! He knows his products, and he knows the business and what his clients needs - and he understands that his clients differ. He makes a real effort to understand what the clients needs are then present solutions accordingly. GeckoCycles - The owner and both very young sales men knows there products well. Dont know if they have the same understanding of their clients needs - only because I did not afford them the same time, I walked in and asked for specific bikes/tools/clothes ... Giant dealer in Durban Road - the young salesman here is friendly enough, and can quote the specs on most of his bikes .. still cant explain logically why one bike is better than the other - he stays in sales mode and keeps punting the cheaper solution. Despite repeated efforts form my side he has no idea/understanding of my needs/wants. Specialized dealer off Durban road - Mike is BRILLIANT !! His service may one day convert me to a Specialized rider ... Marnitz at CWC - Just as good as Mike !! Maturity and professional approach way above his age !! I have LOTS of respect for him. Both these gents take TIME to get to understand their clients and the clients needs. The dealer in Durbanville, next to the Mica .... dont waste your petrol going there .... Punch line - we are spoilt for choice in the Cape !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZakAttak Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 ouch .... thankfully NOT correct. Cycle4Life - Danie KNOWS his stuff !! He knows his products, and he knows the business and what his clients needs - and he understands that his clients differ. He makes a real effort to understand what the clients needs are then present solutions accordingly. GeckoCycles - The owner and both very young sales men knows there products well. Dont know if they have the same understanding of their clients needs - only because I did not afford them the same time, I walked in and asked for specific bikes/tools/clothes ... Giant dealer in Durban Road - the young salesman here is friendly enough, and can quote the specs on most of his bikes .. still cant explain logically why one bike is better than the other - he stays in sales mode and keeps punting the cheaper solution. Despite repeated efforts form my side he has no idea/understanding of my needs/wants. Specialized dealer off Durban road - Mike is BRILLIANT !! His service may one day convert me to a Specialized rider ... Marnitz at CWC - Just as good as Mike !! Maturity and professional approach way above his age !! I have LOTS of respect for him. Both these gents take TIME to get to understand their clients and the clients needs. The dealer in Durbanville, next to the Mica .... dont waste your petrol going there .... Punch line - we are spoilt for choice in the Cape !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was generalising... But I've come to learn that, either you know what you want and just go out and get it or do your own research first... Marnus, Drikus or Wikus (I think his name is) are good okes that know their stuff at CWC... There are other shops with good okes, but generally, I've learnt that, you need to do your own research mostly.
American Flyers Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 I learnt my lesson in the past, I always try to find cheaper parts, but when things go wrong, I find difficult to deal with it. Rather find suitable or nearby bike shop and support them because when things go wrong, they will deal with it. Rather pay R100/R200 more for peace ofminds. If you find it too expensive, have chat with him and he can give you better price....
Shebeen Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 ouch .... thankfully NOT correct. Cycle4Life - Danie KNOWS his stuff !! He knows his products, and he knows the business and what his clients needs - and he understands that his clients differ. He makes a real effort to understand what the clients needs are then present solutions accordingly. GeckoCycles - The owner and both very young sales men knows there products well. Dont know if they have the same understanding of their clients needs - only because I did not afford them the same time, I walked in and asked for specific bikes/tools/clothes ... Giant dealer in Durban Road - the young salesman here is friendly enough, and can quote the specs on most of his bikes .. still cant explain logically why one bike is better than the other - he stays in sales mode and keeps punting the cheaper solution. Despite repeated efforts form my side he has no idea/understanding of my needs/wants. Specialized dealer off Durban road - Mike is BRILLIANT !! His service may one day convert me to a Specialized rider ... Marnitz at CWC - Just as good as Mike !! Maturity and professional approach way above his age !! I have LOTS of respect for him. Both these gents take TIME to get to understand their clients and the clients needs. The dealer in Durbanville, next to the Mica .... dont waste your petrol going there .... Punch line - we are spoilt for choice in the Cape !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!that are all norf of the worsgordyn too.
Pure Savage Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Evobikes may not always be the cheapest, but they are competitive on 95% of things I have found. What makes them worth the premium in my mind is that when things break or I need support Jannos is great. shoes clips broke after crash, replaced for gratis. Needed a freebody for my wheels, had it in stock and fitted it for me. AND was 40% cheaper than anywhere else including the east + shipping.
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