Jay87 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Is it a surface that uses less water to prepare? Maybe it has better drainage, dries faster and will be cheaper to re do every time rocks fall? In the changing climate and economy there is probably a hell of a lot more to consider these days than whether cyclists find the road surface comfortable to ride on......That's quite a few maybes. Unless they release a statement stating that the new surface is better (in the long-term) for the climate and socioeconomic environment, based on scientific evidence, I wouldn't suggest assuming anything. Basing opinions on intuition is a dangerous thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay87 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Hey hubbers,As a pavement engineer (i design the road layerworks including the surfacing), the photo shows a single 14mm aggregate (stone) surfacing which i read somewhere was applied using bitumen rubber (more flexible properties than standard bitumen). I believe in order to create a safe surface (with skid resistance properites for the cars), asphalt with rolled in chips could have been utilised. Unfortunately this is a very expensive option. The cheaper alternative is a Cape Seal which i believe is what this surfacing is. A single layer of slurry will be laid over the aggregate and brushed in. This will leave approximately 2-4 mm exposed aggregate to help with the skid resistance. The slurry will be applied in the coming weeks after all the volatiles have been released from the bitumen rubber. The waiting period between the aggregate and slurry being applied helps with dislodging loose aggregate. I hope this makes sense.Thanks @samson99! I was hoping someone in the thread had the expertise to explain this. I've only been on Chappies once and was really looking forward to going again soon...but will definitely wait for the process to be completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porqui Posted November 2, 2017 Share Seeing is believing. I will believe it when the final coat is applied until then it is what it is. In SA anything is possible especially shortcuts and usually is. HB local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with no name Posted November 2, 2017 Share Seeing is believing. I will believe it when the final coat is applied until then it is what it is. In SA anything is possible especially shortcuts and usually is. HB localAgree, which is why we should worry when they paint it. Until then hasta mañana. Another HB Local Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted November 2, 2017 Share The major issue is the loose agregate at the moment, hopefully with the final seal that will sort it out. It will be a little bumpier and the Savage top 10 on the strava segment is probably safe Long Wheel Base and Sportopia Cycles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with no name Posted November 2, 2017 Share Oh btw, the road will be closed for cyclists until this is done There was a no cycling sign this morning but at 6h00 in the morning it was terribly hard to see [emoji41] Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Wannabe and Pure Savage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted November 2, 2017 Share Oh btw, the road will be closed for cyclists until this is done There was a no cycling sign this morning but at 6h00 in the morning it was terribly hard to see [emoji41] Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkI saw a sign that said no MTB, so assumed road bikes were ok.. Wannabe and KingZA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted November 2, 2017 Share That's quite a few maybes. Unless they release a statement stating that the new surface is better (in the long-term) for the climate and socioeconomic environment, based on scientific evidence, I wouldn't suggest assuming anything. Basing opinions on intuition is a dangerous thing. huh? My point was more that there are endless possibilities as to why the road looks like it does (finished or unfinished) and that the contractors will definitely have their reasons for it (regardless of what they are) which nobody knew/knows so whinging about it and making statements like 'they didn't need to' while being completely uninformed is exactly what you are saying is bad.... The guys spending the money probably couldn't care less about whether it is friendly for cyclists, especially after so many just rode up and over there when it was closed, despite the signs, cones, booms etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane_Bosch Posted November 2, 2017 Share Another HB Local Also a HB local. Isn't it just the best place in the world? Kind of ruins our round the point rides. I'm not THAAT keen to drive to Noordhoek to commence my rides but if that's the requirement... Edited November 2, 2017 by Duane_Bosch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted November 2, 2017 Share Also a HB local. Isn't it just the best place in the world? Kind of ruins our round the point rides. I'm not THAAT keen to drive to Noordhoek to commence my rides but if that's the requirement... Entilini can kiss my ass Pure Savage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with no name Posted November 2, 2017 Share I saw a sign that said no MTB, so assumed road bikes were ok..I saw a sign that said no bike, which makes sense. You should never leave your bike on its own Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pure Savage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferro Posted November 2, 2017 Share I'm worried about you guys riding on that road in the condition it is in. If one of you okes bail hard and from the sounds of things, get ripped up, aren't you going to be in deep kark as you are riding on a road that has been closed to cyclists? Will medical aid and insurance cover you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted November 2, 2017 Share I saw a sign that said no bike, which makes sense. You should never leave your bike on its own Sent from my iPad using TapatalkChirp of the day ???????????????? Man with no name, Cafe Racer, Pure Savage and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porqui Posted November 2, 2017 Share Apparently that IS how it is going to be - That IS the FINAL coat. Why does that not surprise me. Council is going to meet with Entilini about this. This can not be - something has to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porqui Posted November 2, 2017 Share So what if over the weekend we all go for a ride on Chappies and will not be allowed through do we turn around ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisismyotherbike Posted November 2, 2017 Share Apparently that IS how it is going to be - That IS the FINAL coat. Why does that not surprise me. Council is going to meet with Entilini about this. This can not be - something has to be done.Do you have a link? Or heard on the radio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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