The WTF is up with shoe prices thread.

[Shebeen]

ok ok, I know running doesn't have that much equipment (compared to cycling), but the prices on top shoes have gone ballistic.

 

R2k for a shoe is just madness, especially when we all know the cost price for manufacture in Vietnam is like $8 per pair.

 

Wasn't the whole point of 'barefoot'/minimalist trend that there has been a huge hoodwink about running shoe technology since the 70's. YET prices have gone UP?

 

I'm an Asics fan, not even top of the range stuff is this price, at an online store - https://sport.takealot.com/sport-men-s-asics-gel-cumulus-19-running-shoes/PLID48453405

 

But then I see that the okes who win Comrades run for Mr Price. and this is not like cycling where if you want some kit but the team has a different sponsor so you take some stickers off - These boytjies run in bog standard MAXED shoes. Now there is a world of difference in a comrades winner, and average joe runner like me, but these guys are still hammering away for 100s of kms per week and 5 hours on the day.

 

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/athletics/do-your-shoes-matter-at-the-comrades-marathon-9271742

 

 

 

 

SO, my next running shoe is coming from these guys (let's just hope i don't spend all the saved $$$$ at the physio - the obvious concern!). I'm not going to go full retard, and will steer clear of what looks like a totally legit shoe at the cost of a block of cheese

 

https://www.mrpsport.com/en_za/gravity-edge-runner-7252010185

 

 

[Shebeen]

[Mudsimus]

I had some insight during the design and manufacturing of those Maxed Elite shoes over the years. The runners that use the shoes play a big part in the design and testing, it’s really not just cheaply made China tech as most people think. If you want a super lightweight, well constructed shoe then nothing will beat it for value. On the other hand, if you need stability features these are not for you. Its outright a racing shoe.

[Craai]

ok ok, I know running doesn't have that much equipment (compared to cycling), but the prices on top shoes have gone ballistic.

 

R2k for a shoe is just madness, especially when we all know the cost price for manufacture in Vietnam is like $8 per pair.

 

Wasn't the whole point of 'barefoot'/minimalist trend that there has been a huge hoodwink about running shoe technology since the 70's. YET prices have gone UP?

 

I'm an Asics fan, not even top of the range stuff is this price, at an online store - https://sport.takealot.com/sport-men-s-asics-gel-cumulus-19-running-shoes/PLID48453405

 

But then I see that the okes who win Comrades run for Mr Price. and this is not like cycling where if you want some kit but the team has a different sponsor so you take some stickers off - These boytjies run in bog standard MAXED shoes. Now there is a world of difference in a comrades winner, and average joe runner like me, but these guys are still hammering away for 100s of kms per week and 5 hours on the day.

 

https://www.iol.co.za/sport/athletics/do-your-shoes-matter-at-the-comrades-marathon-9271742

 

 

 

 

SO, my next running shoe is coming from these guys (let's just hope i don't spend all the saved $$$$ at the physio - the obvious concern!). I'm not going to go full retard, and will steer clear of what looks like a totally legit shoe at the cost of a block of cheese

 

https://www.mrpsport.com/en_za/gravity-edge-runner-7252010185

 

Yeah, it's ridiculous. Getting a free pair from Discovery Vitality softens the blow somewhat, but even so, if you're a frequent runner you will kill more than 1 pair per annum

[Stretch]

They do run in then and win... But they run one race in that pair and I bet they get no more than 500km out of a pair for training... That said... That's still cheaper than one pair of ASICS giving you 1000km

[IceCreamMan]

I use Asics and have to use stability shoes otherwise injuries occur and then its downtime which I cannot afford at the moment. Yes they are expensive and I guess the cost of manufacture might be cheap but the R&D that goes into it must be recouped.

 

I try and buy the previous year's model and then on Ebay. Instead of 120 pounds for Kayano 24 I pay around 80 for kayano 23 if I can find them. In ZA try that Naidoos place for cheaper shoes.

 

I go through 2 pairs a year so it gets expensive and it burns my ass that shoes which look outwardly still new are worn out after 600 to 800 kays.

[Mudsimus]

They do run in then and win... But they run one race in that pair and I bet they get no more than 500km out of a pair for training... That said... That's still cheaper than one pair of ASICS giving you 1000km

If you get 500km out of the same lightweight Nike/Adidas shoe you will be lucky. And they do all their training in these shoes. A lot of it on gravel roads.

[EmJayZA]

My New Balance Fresh Foam are on 810km. Feeling a little nostalgic as they are my first pair of proper running shoes. Considering giving the Maxed shoe a try as I don't need anything fancy. My New Balance shoes were amazing though. Out of the 810km, I have only ever had 1 blister, which was tiny and after my first half IM. 

[Shebeen]

I had some insight during the design and manufacturing of those Maxed Elite shoes over the years. The runners that use the shoes play a big part in the design and testing, it’s really not just cheaply made China tech as most people think. If you want a super lightweight, well constructed shoe then nothing will beat it for value. On the other hand, if you need stability features these are not for you. Its outright a racing shoe.

thanks, I really did not expect this sort of insight.

 

I found this site awesome - http://thatrunninguy.com/2015/11/evolution-of-running-shoes-1960-1972.html

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8lUsf7NNYL8/VhZuv5Y2k0I/AAAAAAAAauI/GFPVhnZ3A2I/s1600/eor-running-shoes_01%25283%2529.jpg

 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_g-KeEyYJV8/VhZvfIA5JoI/AAAAAAAAauQ/PiDFD19yTH0/s640/eor-running-shoes_02.jpg

 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6c8nhhiz2s8/VhZwa2upLOI/AAAAAAAAauc/3LHokCXkUH8/s1600/eor-running-shoes_03.jpg

 

 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-o6B1qTqwyQU/VhZzDwT2O_I/AAAAAAAAauk/HZaMmN7wmbA/s1600/eor-running-shoes_04.jpg

 

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_pg0zBTl1hw/VhZ0orsAZBI/AAAAAAAAauw/PnKJKEOtnzM/s1600/eor-running-shoes_05.jpg

 

[JanJan]

Sportsman Warehouse recently had a clearance where I picked up Nimbus 19's for R600. Otherwise I would've never moved away from my Maxed shoes. But as Mudsimus mentioned, if you have pronation or supnation, you require the extra padding and can either buy the specialized shoes, or buy those bespoke pads from an orthopedic doctor.

[Shebeen]

I might also have fudged my numbers a fair bit on the production costs.

I'm not convinced - Nike says they make $5 profit on a $100 shoe? pull the other one sister, because any idiot can see that you'd move to a direct to customer model on that calculation.

 

Nike veteran Steve Bence on Tuesday explained one of the enduring mysteries of the sneaker industry: How much does it cost to make a $100 pair of shoes?

Bence, who has worked for Nike since 1977 in a variety of product development roles, spoke at the trial run for the University of Oregon's new Sports Product Management program, which launches next fall.

He said it costs a sneaker company about $28.50 to manufacture a pair of shoes in Asia and have it shipped to the United States. That includes $25 for labor and factory costs and $1 in shipping.

Sneaker companies spend $15 on various overhead costs and $2 on taxes and net a $4.50 profit (9 percent) on each pair of shoes, which are then sold to wholesalers, such as sporting goods stores, for $50.

Retailers mark up shoes 100 percent to $100 to recoup various costs and generate a profit.

The numbers do not reflect Nike's costs on a specific shoe and are best understood as a general industry framework provided in order to start an academic discussion about product costs.

[stringbean]

Cycling shoes easily cost 7K with the new mavic road shoes costing 16k and you complain about the price of takkies.

[dave303e]

S-LAB Sense ultra's are R3200 in Sportsmans, so 2k shoes are actually cheap.

[Shebeen]

Cycling shoes easily cost 7K with the new mavic road shoes costing 16k and you complain about the price of takkies.

I know, I was upfront about that...also madness!

Thing is you get a lot more miles out of your cycling shoes, try run on shoes for 10 000km+!

[IceCreamMan]

Cycling shoes easily cost 7K with the new mavic road shoes costing 16k and you complain about the price of takkies.

16k????? Wtf.

[HdB]

16k????? Wtf.

Jup.

https://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/category/clothing/shoes/product/mavic-comete-ultimate-shoes-review-51196/

 

More than what my frameset cost. Nope!