karma Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Reading various topics and discussions on this site, I've come to the conclusion that real road bikes are dead. Road bikes were all about speed. Comfort took the back seat and the riders were tougher for it. Now we are seeing 1x drive trains on road bikes, rediculously large cassettes and compact chainrings to make climbing easier, big tyres to make the ride more comfortable and disc brakes. What I can see is that road bikes are starting to morph into mountain bikes. If you want a bike with fat tyres, dinner plate cassettes and disc brakes, get a hardtail mountain bike. Let road bikes go back to the their roots as stiff, lightweight speed machines where comfort is secondary to speed and strong legs get you up the hill fast. ridiculously*...Road bikes aren't dead, far from it. Does you car have comfortable seats, airbags, air-con, power steering, or do you still drive a winder-upper, with window winders, no roof etc....
Patchelicious Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Not this again. Look, if you don't like innovation, then keep riding what you have. But the argument is a bit silly. It based on the premise that ALL road bikes are becoming more comfortable, with CX tyres and suspension. I find that a bit strange considering that the hub is currently covered in the launches of the new aero Dale, Spez and BMC.... not comfort bikes AT ALL. Be a real man and ride the new SystemSix up Ventoux! If this was a real question If it was an attempt to create an argument
Eldron Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 I'm guessing we won't see another post from the OP. Is Wind Up Wednesday going to becone a thing?
gummibear Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 What you missed is that the wider tires are not just for comfort. They are also faster. The additional suspension reduces the rolling resistance. If you want to go for an option that increases the resistance so you can be a hard man, be my guest.When i started racing in 1990's all the adverts were for 19mm tubbie tyres because they were the fastest.....even had pretty graphs to prove it. Then mid 90's it was 21mm....2000 it was 23mm....now 25mm/28mm.Really glad that evolved though but what happened to all that scientific proof from the 90's that narrow tyres were faster?I bought an old steel bike the other day with 19mm tyres and wondered how the hell we raced on those things
SwissVan Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Reading various topics and discussions on this site, I've come to the conclusion that real road bikes are dead. Road bikes were all about speed. Comfort took the back seat and the riders were tougher for it. Now we are seeing 1x drive trains on road bikes, rediculously large cassettes and compact chainrings to make climbing easier, big tyres to make the ride more comfortable and disc brakes. What I can see is that road bikes are starting to morph into mountain bikes. If you want a bike with fat tyres, dinner plate cassettes and disc brakes, get a hardtail mountain bike. Let road bikes go back to the their roots as stiff, lightweight speed machines where comfort is secondary to speed and strong legs get you up the hill fast.Ja Nee Swaer....I can understand where you coming from.... That is until you added compact cranks to the list
lechatnoir Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 you mean, like this? this kind of real bike? 5.8kg btw...
stefmeister Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 But why? If technology allows you to be both fast, and comfortable, why would you choose to be uncomfortable for the sake of being uncomfortable?Sounds like that "26 ain't dead" crowd.
Jase619 Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 I'm guessing we won't see another post from the OP. Is Wind Up Wednesday going to becone a thing? But he has over 2000 though? Surely the rest of his posts can't be as bad as this drivel. . .
Eugene Posted July 4, 2018 Author Posted July 4, 2018 I'm guessing we won't see another post from the OP. Is Wind Up Wednesday going to becone a thing?Wind Up Wednesday is a good thing. Friday popcorn sessions are getting boring. I've been here since the beginning of The Hub, so definitely not my last post.
SwissVan Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 But he has over 2000 though? Surely the rest of his posts can't be as bad as this drivel. . .Says he with no Rouxtjie exemption(Pronounced as rookie)
gummibear Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 you mean, like this? this kind of real bike? 5.8kg btw...6.8kg and it's steel
Eugene Posted July 4, 2018 Author Posted July 4, 2018 But he has over 2000 though? Surely the rest of his posts can't be as bad as this drivel. . .Sounds like Rude dog reincarnated.
The Ouzo Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 technology evolves, as does the research and research techniques. Have a look at supercars. They used to be hardcore road going versions of race cars that would bite you in the ass if you even thought about doing something stupid, you had to be really hardcore to drive them every day, now you can climb into the latest supercar as a learner driver, drive it to the shops without worrying about killing yourself and everyone around you, it can be used every day and doesnt require you to use a kidney belt to drive.Yet they will annihilate almost every super car from the 90's with ease.
Fat Boab Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Until we have real roads, here in SA, I'll stick with the bike(s) I've got.....
Jase619 Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Says he with no Rouxtjie exemption(Pronounced as rookie) Haha, I'm working on it, Rome wasn't built in a day
Eldron Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Wind Up Wednesday is a good thing. Friday popcorn sessions are getting boring. I've been here since the beginning of The Hub, so definitely not my last post. I meant on this thread - you made a rather controversial statement - let's see you debate it....
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