Jewbacca Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Spot on. I just don’t want people saying, look at all these deaths, this is due to how cyclists behave. Zero correlation.I would say most have zero correlation, but some people involved in these accidents care less because they hate cyclists because xyz.... In reality those people are just impatient butt sniffers and would find something to whinge about. If it's not cyclists it's old people or slow people or Eastern Cape drivers etc.. Guys hitting drivers with front wheels doesn't help, but impatience and entitlement are the real killers. I had a good chuckle with my thread prediction!
splat Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Off topic... I saw the heading and thought 'oohhh, best lights for riding jumps at night!' This old chestnut.... Meh I have read nothing but will predict how it goes.. Patch and Savage disagree on a technicality. The older statesmen claim absolute innocence. Some guys say they do but only if... these guys get flamed. People start debating a 'legal' vs 'Moral' vs 'interpretation' and this goes off on multiple tangents that have little to no relevance to the original topic. DieselnDust comes along and calls people names. The end Why you shortcut the process?
RocknRolla Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Why you shortcut the process? It's consideration for deadliners like me, who should be working...but these threads....so addictive.....
Heppy Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Quick question, does going through a red traffic but green pedestrian light count as jumping the light?
RocknRolla Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Quick question, does going through a red traffic but green pedestrian light count as jumping the light? if you are walking besides your bike, it's allowed...because, surprise, you are a pedestrian who happens to be pushing your bike... if the little green bicycle is shown on the light, you may proceed to ride your bicycle through the crossing...
splat Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Quick question, does going through a red traffic but green pedestrian light count as jumping the light? If you are a car on the pedestrian crossing, yesbut walking your bike across the road, no
Wannabe Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Of course that can be said too. Ok let’s simplify it... Do you think that many motorists have an opinion that cyclists are arrogant and inconsiderate road users? Just as the majority of them are.
andreas17777 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Lived in Aus for 2 years - my experience there is that people simply do no speed, do not drive aggresively, do not drive in emergency lanes, do not jump lights, and don't even think about driving after a few drinks - it's astonishing how well their roads work. But then I think that has quite a bit to do with how hard it is to get your drivers and how easy it is to lose it (points system). Also used to commute an hour to and from work every day for about a year - then got a job 4km from home. My mood instantly lifted, I drove better and less aggresively. Pretty much exactly your experience. Traffic can really screw with you - and you don't even realise how badly... Here in the Cape (Somerset West) I also see motorists running reds often - especially in the evenings. The road I stay on is an 80 zone - but heaven forbid you travel anything less than 120 in the right lane - you will get death stares, hooters, and driven on top of. It's ridiculous - if traffic officers just sat on that road and trapped and fined they would make a killing! But I guess that's the other problem - in ZA there is no consequence to any action, you don't get fined, and even if you do - you can just ignore it and eventually the problem goes away. As for cyclists, been running red lights for as long as I can remember, and will continue to do so. It's not right, but nothing new, and I doubt it will change any time soon...The issue in Somerset West is the stop streets Especially on Irene.
Patchelicious Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Just as the majority of them are.Yes I agree many motorists are terrible road users. But what I’m getting at is that there is definitely imagine problem with cyclists. Look at these “rich ones in Lycra riding lie they own the road” Whether that is right or not is different conversation, but it is a reality that we find ourselves in. We need to find a balance between riding to survive whilst making sure we improve our image. Eg: Savages have made a good safety argument about riding two abreast along the Bakoven road, all I’m saying is that when we do this, be sure to acknowledge the drivers that you have held up. A quick thumbs ups and thanks can go a long way in a symbiotic relationship.
Patchelicious Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 The issue in Somerset West is the stop streets Especially on Irene.What stop streets?
Chris_ Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 A quick thumbs ups and thanks can go a long way in a symbiotic relationship. This is not done enough
Pure Savage Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Some of the best drivers I have come across are going up constania nek, stay behind till save to pass, even indicate. Always say thank you to them. Even the taxis on that road wait and pass safely.
Ozzie NL Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Cyclists get a €100 fine for skipping a red light if caught! You're in Holland mate. Everybody is too stoned to notice
Shebeen Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 people's post. claremont 14 august and that is not far from the truth
NickGM Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 You're in Holland mate. Everybody is too stoned to noticeLol. "In Amsterdam everybody rides bikes and takes drugs. So it's basically the same as the Tour de France."
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