ajnkzn Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Can someone who is in the know explain to me why you still see 1 - 3 helicopters doing the filming at big races like Epic, Tankwa Trek etc? Surely it's a) cheaperb) more environmentally friendly in terms of fuel and noise and servicing etcc) safer to have drones and pilots deployed along the route at key points that warrant filming? I am obviously wrong but it seems like a bit of a "look at me" thing for race directors et al to zoom around in choppers. I am obviously not suggesting that no helis be involved, one has to have heli Medivacs available.
Eddy Gordo Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 As far as I understand, drones are restricted to model plane air fields as per law. I could be wrong, things might have changed.
sawystertrance Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 What is the range and operating time of a drone v that of a helicopter? Isn't that a factor?
Allrounder Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 I also thought about this while watching the Dakar. Why not lock a drone onto a car, and where the car goes the drone goes? Much more footage than the 30 minute repeats. And the proper drones can calculate when they need to return to base when the battery runs out. Same as the drones. Surely if the race is in moerlandspan, getting authorization to fly below 150 meters can not be that difficult?
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Run-time. Pure and simple. Multiple hours vs minutes. Unless you're talking military or super high level commercial drones, which come with their own problems and pricing issues.
JohanDiv Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Did this Lily drone ever make it to market? Would be awesome if they asked one member of a team to use a follow drone like this. Guess the limitations are the 20min battery life and live broadcasting from a drone.
DieselnDust Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 To fly a drone beyond visual range requires airframe licensing that is economically unrecoverable for the operators. Range is limited by weight and battery capacity. Not many pilots in the system who are capable and licensed to fly bvr. Loiter time is limited Close up visuals are hard to track. Most drones use wide angle lens cameras The technology is existent
Shebeen Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 theme music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8syGlAMTKAdrones just don't have decent tunes, they drone. it's in the name
DieselnDust Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Did this Lily drone ever make it to market? Would be awesome if they asked one member of a team to use a follow drone like this. Guess the limitations are the 20min battery life and live broadcasting from a drone.No the DJi mavic beat it to market with similar features
Matchstix Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 theme music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8syGlAMTKAdrones just don't have decent tunes, they drone. it's in the nameI would not mind a chopper like the one airwolf was based on.That said, this is an awesome pilot.https://youtu.be/AcDU2JpX_rk
bertusras Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Run-time. Pure and simple. Multiple hours vs minutes. Unless you're talking military or super high level commercial drones, which come with their own problems and pricing issues. Live feeds vs recorded feeds. ^^^^^^^^
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Live feeds vs recorded feeds.This, too. Live feeds also introduce their own issues wrt weight and such. A military drone is not a small thing...
DieselnDust Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 This, too. Live feeds also introduce their own issues wrt weight and such. A military drone is not a small thing...Well they can be. Depends what you want it to do. Anything that flies long range missions will need fuel and a facility to refuel. So if tight spaces is the only option then we're talking about a rotary wing airframe. Control bvr will need to via satellite or rf amplifier which brings additional problems wrt access to satellites or RF licensing. Like you say if its military spec it's going to be big money and the insurance on that is more expensive than hiring a chopper per hour. It's not an easy problem to solve on a sports media company budget...The problem is essentially economics and a few legal hurdles with the FAA and CAA
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Well they can be. Depends what you want it to do. Anything that flies long range missions will need fuel and a facility to refuel. So if tight spaces is the only option then we're talking about a rotary wing airframe. Control bvr will need to via satellite or rf amplifier which brings additional problems wrt access to satellites or RF licensing. Like you say if its military spec it's going to be big money and the insurance on that is more expensive than hiring a chopper per hour. It's not an easy problem to solve on a sports media company budget...The problem is essentially economics and a few legal hurdles with the FAA and CAAYeah, as soon as you introduce range and longevity (of service) you get mucho problemo.
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