throttles Posted May 13, 2019 Share Does the CPA apply in transactions between private individuals or only when the seller acts in the normal scope of his business ? Well, i paid into his standard bank "business" account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted May 13, 2019 Share Does the CPA apply in transactions between private individuals or only when the seller acts in the normal scope of his business ?The CPA does not apply to private individuals, so has no bearing on this transaction unfortunately. The only legal course of action the buyer can take is to open a case of fraud, which let's be honest - for R1250 is not worth the time and effort. slickjay007, bertusras and Steven Knoetze (sk27) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted May 13, 2019 Share more than likely an ISUZU Hey, watchit! What's wrong with Isuzu? I drive one, and it's a beast. slickjay007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted May 13, 2019 Share Interesting thread .... and interesting responses ... Am I the only one "worried" by the fact that the buyer misrepresented his "immediate payment" ? Clearly this story has THREE sides .... not sure we are privvy to the FULL truth .... that said, in FULL agreement about the multitude of posts regarding the onus on the seller to ensure the REAL condition of items are clearly shown in the ADD. but having been nearly scammed by false "proof of payment" I see a big red flag .... and can only wonder about the "full truth" .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted May 13, 2019 Share Interesting thread .... and interesting responses ... Am I the only one "worried" by the fact that the buyer misrepresented his "immediate payment" ? Clearly this story has THREE sides .... not sure we are privvy to the FULL truth .... that said, in FULL agreement about the multitude of posts regarding the onus on the seller to ensure the REAL condition of items are clearly shown in the ADD. but having been nearly scammed by false "proof of payment" I see a big red flag .... and can only wonder about the "full truth" ....Was he trying to misrepresent his payment, or did he send a screenshot of the payment made with a date/time stamp? 2 very different things. I believe the OP has said that he then went home and sent an actual POP from his PC later? I'm always circumspect in these situations but no one should be selling a helmet like that! It wouldn't pass inspection at most races. Bin it or wear it till you bin it. I'm going with school fees and BURN THE WITCH! ChrisF and Danger Dassie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpelser Posted May 13, 2019 Share I'm sitting here reading this, and can't help to think how it must suck to be the seller. No way on Earth he or anyone he knows can like him at all.Op may lose R1250 but this tjop needs to be himself for the rest of his life. Ek sny eerder my polse met n nat besluit... pe3nguin, Quagga, Skylark and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe3nguin Posted May 13, 2019 Share My aussie slang isnt great. But I'm sure there is a phrase for this seller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted May 13, 2019 Share Dear ThrottleWTH respect let’s go through this together and keep it to the facts. You assured me payment was done instantly and must keep the goods for you. You said you would do a instant payment form same bank to same bank. The proof sent to me of payments were not recognized by the bank as legitimate a day later and dither proof two days later. It possible your intention at that time was not to pay me right away I don’t know. I then alerted you to the fact and then on the third day payment was received. I apologies for the bank not recognizing your proof of payment but the fact remains they never seen this type of proof ... The goods are in good condition, before they were packed they were also photographed. Further more I confirmed our discussion and noted the goods are sold as is in the letter with one pictures of the packed goods. There be no further comment and wish you happy riding.Please post your pictures then! pe3nguin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Posted May 13, 2019 Share Does the CPA apply in transactions between private individuals or only when the seller acts in the normal scope of his business ?I've have received some training on the CPA and if my memory serves me correctly, it does not include private deals, however if the seller is a regular trader, then yes it would. I'm not quite sure how a regular trader would be defined, but the legal people here might be able to advise. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and ChrisF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Posted May 13, 2019 Share The CPA does not apply to private individuals, so has no bearing on this transaction unfortunately. The only legal course of action the buyer can take is to open a case of fraud, which let's be honest - for R1250 is not worth the time and effort.Unless the private person is a regular trader. Grease_Monkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veebee Posted May 13, 2019 Share Please post your pictures then! photoshop is a thing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted May 13, 2019 Share Unless the private person is a regular trader.I worked for a company that bought and sold 2nd hand electronic devices for quite a while. We obviously fell under the CPA, I was involved in that transition from private seller to regular seller - and there was quite a bit of volume that needed to take place before that happened. I only know of one or two private sellers on the hub that would fall under that definition. A few other things need to take place at that point too (for a 2nd hand good seller) like getting police clearance and agreeing to stick to regulatory things like getting a copy of a seller's ID, etc... Edit: not disagreeing with you about CPA though, just don't think this seller will fall under that regulation. 2nd Edit: this my post are getting a bit off topic, so let's get back to BURNING THE WITCH! Edited May 13, 2019 by Grease_Monkey Jewbacca and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted May 13, 2019 Share Well, i paid into his standard bank "business" account.So you and him are both at Standard bank? If that then the payment should have shown immediately? DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted May 13, 2019 Share photoshop is a thing !Hahaha I dont think one can repair that crap even in PS :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanB Posted May 13, 2019 Share Std to Std on a weekend isn’t immediate and has given me hassles before Andrew Steer, Tiny K, Me rida my bicycle and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted May 13, 2019 Share Std to Std on a weekend isn’t immediate and has given me hassles beforehahahahaha I would suggest most Std transfers between strangers take place on the weekend and it's usually pretty immediate.... Going to wait for v12man or another doctor to confirm...... Tiny K, DJR, cat-i and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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