And just like that it's gone !!

[The Ouzo]

Yes and no.

 

Perhaps grateful is not the word. But when you get an interview, you should recognise the you have been presented with an opportunity at the cost of someone else.

 

And yes, the company should recognise the skill set on offer, but in a first round of interviews, does the granting of an interview not already represent that recognition ?

 

Subsequent rounds (so called shortlisting) are a different kettle of fish.

Is an interview not a 2 way conversation ?

The incumbent also needs to weed out potentially ill fitting employers. Why waste time ?

 

For my previous company I went for an interview, they asked me if I had any other interviews lined up, to which I replied I was leaving there and going to my next one (which was true).

They asked me right there to cancel my next interview, they will have an offer on the table within the hour.

 

Granted this is very much the exception and the industry is notorious for just hiring anyone.

[forkie]

i am starting a new job at the end of the month. my interview process was really good. First interview was the normal 1.5 hr discussion. but then instead of a second interview they invited me to spend a full morning with them - getting to know the plant and people and for the people to meet me. this was to make sure both parties were 100% sure this is what they want. nobody wants to find out 6 months down the line that we are non compatible. i really appreciated the honesty that the new company showed. 

[Escapee..]

i am starting a new job at the end of the month. my interview process was really good. First interview was the normal 1.5 hr discussion. but then instead of a second interview they invited me to spend a full morning with them - getting to know the plant and people and for the people to meet me. this was to make sure both parties were 100% sure this is what they want. nobody wants to find out 6 months down the line that we are non compatible. i really appreciated the honesty that the new company showed. 

 

Thats very cool

 

Congrats Forkie.

[Escapee..]

i am starting a new job at the end of the month. my interview process was really good. First interview was the normal 1.5 hr discussion. but then instead of a second interview they invited me to spend a full morning with them - getting to know the plant and people and for the people to meet me. this was to make sure both parties were 100% sure this is what they want. nobody wants to find out 6 months down the line that we are non compatible. i really appreciated the honesty that the new company showed. 

 

Not a lot of companies still hiring people of your age 

[forkie]

Not a lot of companies still hiring people of your age 

thats why i took the oppertunity with both hands....

[BigDL]

Of course I don’t have the facts. But then who of us on a bike forum actually do. LOL.

 

My reference point is this. I’m 22 years in the I.T business. All 22 in 2 different Global businesses. I’ve interviewed 100’s of candidates over the last decade. For various roles and levels.

 

The Googles, Facebooks etc, who are in the game of creating illusions of fun as a business it’s not surprising they know how to market themselves as great employers. Sure, there are many there that are happy. But many that are not (working hours, deadlines, competitiveness etc.). We interview the latter all the time.

 

But it also depends on what you consider “good retention”. Is it 5 years? 10 years? 2 years?

 

By looking at the ave age of the employee at those firms it’s a quick maths calculation to figure out how long people stay there.

Interesting point. As I work for one of the big tech companies, I was surprised to hear that our retention isn’t great.

[porqui]

​And just like that it has turned into an interesting fred.

[gummibear]

Jirr! That toe! 

 

That's pretty damn rapid and he did it kaalvoet nogal. 

Why in this day and age would anyone still want to run barefoot

 

Good time though

[Stretch]

exactly, let's get it back onto one of the other 5 thread hijacks now!

 

https://www.strava.com/activities/2413255396

 

the kid can actually run!

A 17:04 5km at altitude puts him in contention for a very decent half marathon time.

 

assuming his feet can last the distance

Ok .. That's not bad.. I'm suitably impressed... I'll be watching this with interest.

 

 

He's 3 weeks in...3 weeks to go

[WrightJnr]

Hopefully someone said no, but we will take your money.

Think he’s leaving out the point he was there as a patient and not a potential employee.

[WrightJnr]

Interesting point. As I work for one of the big tech companies, I was surprised to hear that our retention isn’t great.

Perfect. So no more guessing then. Why didn’t you tell us. The floor is yours. Hit us with the facts.

[RocknRolla]

I was recalling articles I read on the internet, which should have been true...

[PhilipV]

Think he’s leaving out the point he was there as a patient and not a potential employee.

Probably not. It's a veterinary clinic.

[SwissVan]

exactly, let's get it back onto one of the other 5 thread hijacks now!

 

https://www.strava.com/activities/2413255396

 

the kid can actually run!

A 17:04 5km at altitude puts him in contention for a very decent half marathon time.

 

assuming his feet can last the distance

17 min for 5k..... 3:25 per km

That equates to about a 62 minute 21k

 

Sounds like he needs to calibrate his running watch or change his sport focus to running

[BigDL]

Perfect. So no more guessing then. Why didn’t you tell us. The floor is yours. Hit us with the facts.

 

Never hidden the fact that I work for a tech company, and I completely understand the perceptions that people have. Retention is a challenge in tech, largely because of the shortage of skills, especially in software, where highly skilled people are in great demand and thus are regularly offered more and more money to move, especially somewhere like Silicon Valley, with a tech startup on every corner. However, outside of these highly specialised roles, retention is pretty good in the industry, as is output. I cannot share any detail, but the company that I work for has an incredible level of retention in manufacturing, admin, retail and product development. In fact far superior to any company that I have ever had experience with. I would also argue that we have a higher expectation from our employees than any company I have ever had experience of. Please note that I am not saying that everybody dances into work with a big smile every day and sits around singing khumbaya together. Rather, our employees have medical, education, health, fitness, metal, travel etc benefits and are respected as individuals at every level.

 

The original contention that I was arguing was your statement that trying to make people happy results in the "workforce not being up to scratch".

[Eddy Gordo]

Never hidden the fact that I work for a tech company, and I completely understand the perceptions that people have. Retention is a challenge in tech, largely because of the shortage of skills, especially in software, where highly skilled people are in great demand and thus are regularly offered more and more money to move, especially somewhere like Silicon Valley, with a tech startup on every corner. However, outside of these highly specialised roles, retention is pretty good in the industry, as is output. I cannot share any detail, but the company that I work for has an incredible level of retention in manufacturing, admin, retail and product development. In fact far superior to any company that I have ever had experience with. I would also argue that we have a higher expectation from our employees than any company I have ever had experience of. Please note that I am not saying that everybody dances into work with a big smile every day and sits around singing khumbaya together. Rather, our employees have medical, education, health, fitness, metal, travel etc benefits and are respected as individuals at every level.

 

The original contention that I was arguing was your statement that trying to make people happy results in the "workforce not being up to scratch".

Is that overseas? I was retrenched some years ago. It was hard to find work. I got contracts at various places but nothing was permanent. I am now completely out of the industry and so withdrawn, I work in a different market completely. At least it pays the bills. Would of loved to still be in the software and security game