Coronavirus lockdown and exercising outdoors

[Quagga]

Yes, but if you walk into pnp your not getting arrested for trespassing. Different access limitations. You need to be granted explicit permission to enter a trail, I don't need to call the manager of pnp so that he can approve my entry.

 

If I walk into pnp it's all good, if I walk onto a trail without a permit I get arrested for trespassing. That's what makes the difference between public and permitted access. I don't get arrested for walking around a public space.

If a farmer gives the public access to his land based on an entry fee paid then the land is private but the space is public since the public now has access to it.

 

Do you really want to argue if you should  or should not wear a mask on the TBMTBC trails?

If you want to argue weather you can access the TBMTBC trail without a mask, then you should read the TBMTBC notice wrt to the trails.

 

Mask mandatory as per government guidelines

[Reme Le Hane]

If a farmer gives the public access to his land based on an entry fee paid then the land is private but the space is public since the public now has access to it.

 

Do you really want to argue if you should or should not wear a mask on the TBMTBC trails?

If you want to argue weather you can access the TBMTBC trail without a mask, then you should read the TBMTBC notice wrt to the trails.

 

Mask mandatory as per government guidelines

I was never arguing about the mask, I was arguing over the statement that private land is in fact public.

 

The trail rules also dictate the wearing of masks as a condition of access, even though that is law set out by the government it is also been included as part of trail access rules. They are free to choose as to weather or not to enforce that as the land is private and not public.

[DieselnDust]

HMM is the inside of checkers/ PNP  not also "private property"?

 

Let me just say this, you dont wear a mask and get arrested and get the Virus in the van= DONT cry here.

 

 

Hows getting the virus in the van related to mask wearing?? Its not airborne. You;ll get it from the police officer breathing into your face because they're not wearing a mask so you having a mask isn't going to help you.

And lets face it, you'll get arrested for farting in public these days

[Quagga]

Hows getting the virus in the van related to mask wearing?? Its not airborne. You;ll get it from the police officer breathing into your face because they're not wearing a mask so you having a mask isn't going to help you.

And lets face it, you'll get arrested for farting in public these days

You are correct, not related directly.

But the police has touched the van and you touch it and and and....and yes you get it from police also shouting at you while arresting you.

 

And again you are correct about the last also. 

 

TBMTBC trails access can easily be lost if people do not adhere to the rules is what my main point is. 

[Gen]

You are correct, not related directly.

But the police has touched the van and you touch it and and and....and yes you get it from police also shouting at you while arresting you.

 

And again you are correct about the last also.

 

TBMTBC trails access can easily be lost if people do not adhere to the rules is what my main point is.

Droplets..Droplets everywhere..[emoji15]

 

Your risk is of course lower if you are the only one in the van.. wonder if they provide face masks when loading people into the vans[emoji2955]

[DieselnDust]

If a farmer gives the public access to his land based on an entry fee paid then the land is private but the space is public since the public now has access to it.

 

Do you really want to argue if you should  or should not wear a mask on the TBMTBC trails?

If you want to argue weather you can access the TBMTBC trail without a mask, then you should read the TBMTBC notice wrt to the trails.

 

Mask mandatory as per government guidelines

 

 

Public space is defined as public land.

Private land is defined as land with a title deed belonging to a private individual or entity other than a government department.

Private land can have rights of admission clauses that includes mandatory wearing of mask's but it can also say "phuqit don't worry about the mask as long as you social distance."

Government land, roads, parks, pavements etc well then everything applies and can be enforced by an officer of the law. On Private land the land owner has to give permission to the officer of the law to enforce the regulation or they can chose to enforce it themselves.

Unless the DA gets its byLaws ratified in the western cape then the law has the right to enter your private property without a warranty which seems to be a concept you're advocating....? Clarify please.

[Reme Le Hane]

Droplets..Droplets everywhere..[emoji15]

 

Your risk is of course lower if you are the only one in the van.. wonder if they provide face masks when loading people into the vans[emoji2955]

Yes, but it's the single use one they gave to the last guy in the van

[Gen]

Yes, but it's the single use one they gave to the last guy in the van

Whahahaha [emoji2961]

[Kranswurm]

You okes can argue the toss as much as you like but surfs up from Monday morning

[DieselnDust]

You are correct, not related directly.

But the police has touched the van and you touch it and and and....and yes you get it from police also shouting at you while arresting you.

 

And again you are correct about the last also. 

 

TBMTBC trails access can easily be lost if people do not adhere to the rules is what my main point is. 

 

 

 

Well as explain above this depends on whether TBMTBCLUB and the landowners want to have that regulation enforced or not. Private land is not a public space so they don't have to enforce wearing of masks. Peroanlly I think its completely unnecessary and will likely cause more accidents than prevent the spread of SARS-COV-2

[Reme Le Hane]

You okes can argue the toss as much as you like but surfs up from Monday morning [emoji106]

Aren't beaches still closed unless ur a pro training?

[Kranswurm]

Aren't beaches still closed unless ur a pro training?

Its a non contact sport 

[Gen]

Its a non contact sport

Only applicable for professionals(?).. any case there is no ways they will able to police it all so enjoy your surf. Edited May 30, 2020 by Gen

[DieselnDust]

Its a non contact sport 

 

 

 

LOL true. I just love how the ambiguity in the rules allows for so many interpretations. Typical ANC legislation 

[Kranswurm]

Only applicable for professionals(?).. any case there is no ways they will able to police it all so enjoy your surf.

Its official

Anyway,where does this professional BS come from

Edited May 30, 2020 by Kranswurm

[Gen]

Its official

Anyway,where does this professional BS come from

 

On the resumption of non-contact sport training. Sport grounds, fields and swimming pools for non-contact sport and training for professional athletes may resume in compliance with the health protocol without any spectators. https://t.co/ICFSdNRUkU

 

 

Like I said though, I am not sure how they will monitor or police it... and he left out the ocean[emoji2368]

 

 

Any case I saw a notice from the City of Cape Town that they are appealing government to open beaches for excersise etc.

Edited May 30, 2020 by Gen