Pure Savage Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 Some insurance companies are now specifying that you need to have a cable lock of a certain thickness, often 12mm or more. I've cut 10mm cable coil locks where keys were lost with cable cutters like scissors go through paper. We have also had clients who had Imbi Bike Savers on their bike racks, the thieves cut the cable locks and attempted to steal the bikes but couldn't figure out what was holding them together(the Imbi's) and after being disturbed, eventually ran and left the bikes.ha ha! thats like the helmet strap keeping my bike safe at the coffee shop.
ChrisF Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 The safest lock is the one that's stronger than the one next to it. One of the tools on my tool board will get through a cable lock in 10 seconds, and it fits in my pocket. A battery grinder will get through anything. 80% secure is as good as you'll get, for the determined and professional thief there's insurance. January 2020 we were in a SANS Park. A family with a double cab bakkie stopped at the unit next to ours ..... very soon their panic was clearly visible!! They had LOCKED the Thule Express rack with a pad lock .... the key was inside the load bin .... they could not open the loadbin with the rack on the bakkie ..... Two spanners, and 15 seconds later I "removed" the lock for them ..... (they would have been seriously stuffed if they had used a proper lock) His face when I popped the lock so easy was absolutely priceless ....
Rocket-Boy Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 January 2020 we were in a SANS Park. A family with a double cab bakkie stopped at the unit next to ours ..... very soon their panic was clearly visible!! They had LOCKED the Thule Express rack with a pad lock .... the key was inside the load bin .... they could not open the loadbin with the rack on the bakkie ..... Two spanners, and 15 seconds later I "removed" the lock for them ..... (they would have been seriously stuffed if they had used a proper lock) His face when I popped the lock so easy was absolutely priceless .... The old spanner trick absolutely wrecks simple locks, it works really well.
DR ◣◢ Posted January 19, 2021 Author Posted January 19, 2021 Spend a couple of minutes (hours in my case) on YouTube with The Lock Picking Lawyer. It is shocking how easy locks are picked.
Nico van Loggerenberg Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 I just leave my bikes in the car as much as possible, for what that's worth.
Alouette3 Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 January 2020 we were in a SANS Park. A family with a double cab bakkie stopped at the unit next to ours ..... very soon their panic was clearly visible!! They had LOCKED the Thule Express rack with a pad lock .... the key was inside the load bin .... they could not open the loadbin with the rack on the bakkie ..... Two spanners, and 15 seconds later I "removed" the lock for them ..... (they would have been seriously stuffed if they had used a proper lock) His face when I popped the lock so easy was absolutely priceless .... And that 15 sec includes finding the tool box and getting the spanners out
ChrisF Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 And that 15 sec includes finding the tool box and getting the spanners out I was scared if a spanner slip I might scratch the bakkies tailgate .... so took it super slow and careful. A normal lock just keeps curious eyes out. Use a PROPER lock for valuables. .... unless the basic lock is just for insurance purposes .... In the end we went the same route as Nico .... bikes now stay IN the car, 98% of the time. Only when we are loaded for a holiday when the Thule rack is used .... and then I dont let the bikes out of my sight.
Andreas_187 Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 I won't educate theives on a public forum but any kind of cable lock is pretty useless for a half competent theif. Go to a motorbike shop and get a proper lock and chain
Thomo Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 Nothing will stop them. Make sure the bike next to yours is easier to steal.Will probably help if it's a better, more expensive bike too...
Bundu Ric Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 I this deemed a good option? I need to secure our bikes properly on the rack or based on all the comments, some level of 2 min deterrent at least. image.jpg This comes to mind
DR ◣◢ Posted January 20, 2021 Author Posted January 20, 2021 Not really. Takes less than a minute to cut through with an angle grinder.However... Chains jump around unless clamped down in a vice which will add time to the process. I don't know how many thieves walk around with battery operated angle grinders though. Will be quicker to cut through the rack then unless it is looped around everything.
Bundu Ric Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 My search for the Kryptonite chain comes up empty for South Africa? I do find the U-Lock and cable option at Makro and Takealot but cant track down the chain.
The Ouzo Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 January 2020 we were in a SANS Park. A family with a double cab bakkie stopped at the unit next to ours ..... very soon their panic was clearly visible!! They had LOCKED the Thule Express rack with a pad lock .... the key was inside the load bin .... they could not open the loadbin with the rack on the bakkie ..... Two spanners, and 15 seconds later I "removed" the lock for them ..... (they would have been seriously stuffed if they had used a proper lock) His face when I popped the lock so easy was absolutely priceless .... Similar happened to me on the way to Cape Town the one year. We stopped at the Engen at Beaufort Wes and wanted to open the trailer to get our extra Padkos out. Oops, left the keys at home.A guy with one of those work bakkies with the big toolbox built into the back stops next to us, so we ask him if he has a grinder or hacksaw, he takes one look at the lock, leans into his toolbox and grabs 2 big spanners, next thing boom, no more lock.I learnt a lesson that day.
NGM Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 I've got an older model of this:https://mobil.abus.com/int/on-road/Locks/U-Shackle-Locks/U-Shackle-Locks-Bike/GRANIT-Plus-470-150HB230-EaZy-KF?type=pdp I've had it for over 12 years. I didn't own a car in the UK so my bike got parked outside every dodgy pub and Indian restaurant in london for 6 years. Since then it's been looking after my bike in stellenbosch for 6 years. I still haven't lost a bike. Maybe I'm lucky but I think it's a good lock. I'm not sure if you can get them here.
Rigardt@Scott Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Similar happened to me on the way to Cape Town the one year. We stopped at the Engen at Beaufort Wes and wanted to open the trailer to get our extra Padkos out. Oops, left the keys at home.A guy with one of those work bakkies with the big toolbox built into the back stops next to us, so we ask him if he has a grinder or hacksaw, he takes one look at the lock, leans into his toolbox and grabs 2 big spanners, next thing boom, no more lock.I learnt a lesson that day. I went to boarding school. We each had a trunk we could lock with a padlock - it's where most guys kept their stash of sweets they brought from home. I also learned very quickly to get one of those round locks you can't get a spanner into. Everyone learned that lesson in the first week of boarding school.
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