Peter Sagan retiring from WorldTour at end of season

[DieselnDust]

14 hours ago, Jewbacca said:

Yes.... Giving no F**ks, being caught breaking the law multiple times, drunk mid season before a GT, handed a suspended prison sentence etc show exactly how many Fs he gave.

BUT people still say 'he was a top pro and a sponsors dream'.... which he wasn't, or that behaviour certainly wouldn't be seen as such if it were another cyclist.

You quote all the reasons why he is a marketeers dream. There is no such thing as bad publicity 

[DieselnDust]

21 hours ago, Shebeen said:

Flintoff really flipped a pedalo? That's nothing compared to what his idol Botham got up to in the 80s, and hardly what most people will remember him for! Herschelle gibbs was hammered the morning he hammered the aussies at 434. As long as you didn;t break any laws, got away with it (before social media) and still performed it was fine. James small also had an (in)famous reputation for chasing skirt before a test match. This is all heresay, and goes back to a day where athletes were young, talented, performing, newly wealthy and misguided. The balance to get them to reign it in and not be robots is what managing them is so difficult.

 

overall I think you're being incredibly harsh on Sagz here by bringing up his drink driving as his highlighted misdemeanours. Did he not pinch a bum for you to forget it so easily? Singlehandedly destroyed the monopoly podium girls had on the presentation stand and created a new career path for pretty boys who can't read to good.

 

 

 

I loved that moment. The bible says to  give the other cheek….

Edited January 19 by DieselnDust

['Dale]

Peter Sagan's contribution to the sport is beyond measure.

I bought at least two pairs of 100% sunglasses because of his marketing power. That brand is still going strong. How to even estimate the reputational value he added to the Specialised Bicycles Company? Who can forget him winning Ronde' and Paris-Roubaix in the rainbow jersey?

When we conflate moral leadership with athleticism of our sports stars, we err in our expectations. Or even hope to have our sons and daughters have these superstars as role models for their lives / our lives. Their job is performative. In the arena.

It is an endless debate whether the likes of Peter Sagan should be examples of how to live. I don't think we should. The public scrutiny and spotlight effect on these young adults (typically elite athletes are in their 20s) is too much of a burden to carry for such young minds.

 

[Shebeen]

On 1/22/2024 at 7:53 AM, 'Dale said:

Peter Sagan's contribution to the sport is beyond measure.

I bought at least two pairs of 100% sunglasses because of his marketing power. That brand is still going strong. How to even estimate the reputational value he added to the Specialised Bicycles Company? Who can forget him winning Ronde' and Paris-Roubaix in the rainbow jersey?

When we conflate moral leadership with athleticism of our sports stars, we err in our expectations. Or even hope to have our sons and daughters have these superstars as role models for their lives / our lives. Their job is performative. In the arena.

It is an endless debate whether the likes of Peter Sagan should be examples of how to live. I don't think we should. The public scrutiny and spotlight effect on these young adults (typically elite athletes are in their 20s) is too much of a burden to carry for such young minds.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2fdb8eIMwP/

 

anyone know if this is easy to watch down here?

[peepeekaitjie]

Sagan undergoes heart surgery today after the scare in Valencia: he exceeds 200 heartbeats on a mountain bike (Italian)

 

https://www.gazzetta.it/Altri-Mondi/23-02-2024/sagan-oggi-si-opera-al-cuore-la-paura-a-valencia-supera-200-battiti-in-mountain-bike.shtml

[Frosty]

I had to turn the captions on, as I thought he said Brakpan... but it was Boricua (Puerto Rica)

[Frosty]

On 1/22/2024 at 7:53 AM, 'Dale said:

Peter Sagan's contribution to the sport is beyond measure.

I bought at least two pairs of 100% sunglasses because of his marketing power.

I'll have to settle with just buying his book, and reading it twice.

[Shebeen]

33 minutes ago, peepeekaitjie said:

Sagan undergoes heart surgery today after the scare in Valencia: he exceeds 200 heartbeats on a mountain bike (Italian)

 

https://www.gazzetta.it/Altri-Mondi/23-02-2024/sagan-oggi-si-opera-al-cuore-la-paura-a-valencia-supera-200-battiti-in-mountain-bike.shtml

whoa...that's not normal but heart surgery seems a bit excessive so soon?

[peepeekaitjie]

19 minutes ago, Shebeen said:

heart surgery seems a bit excessive so soon?

tl;dr: not surgery that will stop him from continuing to race. Same thing Viviani and Fidanza had done in the past.

[saggy]

2 hours ago, peepeekaitjie said:

tl;dr: not surgery that will stop him from continuing to race. Same thing Viviani and Fidanza had done in the past.

the list of professional cyclists that have had ablations is long

stuart ogrady, haimar zubeldia, bobby julich , zdenek stybar

Richard murray the triathlete are just the ones off the top of my head

[shaper]

25 minutes ago, saggy said:

the list of professional cyclists that have had ablations is long

stuart ogrady, haimar zubeldia, bobby julich , zdenek stybar

Richard murray the triathlete are just the ones off the top of my head

It is more common than you think in endurance athletes https://www.outsideonline.com/health/training-performance/endurance-athletes-heart-health-research-2021/

[peepeekaitjie]

Update from Sagan’s Instagram indicates he didn’t have an ablation - internal electrophysiological study found no supraventricular or ventricular arrhythmias of pathological significance. 

 

He did have a subcutaneous event recorder implanted to monitor for future monitoring though

[DieselnDust]

So he’ll be back in his way in about 6 weeks

[babse]

Heart issues after a ride with Beers (in his z2) 

[mecheng89]

On 2/23/2024 at 11:14 PM, babse said:

Heart issues after a ride with Beers (in his z2) 

I'd be too. Z7 all the way.