This has to STOP!!!!

[Velouria]

Having a look on the internet for solutions, I came across this:

 

"Let your readers judge each other so you don't have to judge them yourself.

Slashdot,

Groklaw, Kuro5hin and many other geek-oriented discussion sites have

moderation features built into the software that drives them.

Slashdot's moderation scheme, from which the others were derived, works

like this:

• You cannot post in and moderate the same discussion; you cannot, therefore, moderate your own posts.
• Moderation

  powers are distributed semi-randomly, and only to readers who have had

  login identities for at least a few weeks. And no individual reader

  gets more than a few moderation points at a time, so it's hard for one

  knucklehead to mess up the whole scheme.

• Obscenities, personal

  attacks, and other unwelcome speech will almost inevitably be moderated

  down into oblivion. "Community standards" have been used as a legal

  test of what constitutes obscenity. Give your readers the power to

  moderate other readers' posts, and you will soon find what they

  consider obscene.

Slashdot has tried all sorts of additions

and tweaks to its moderation system over the years, so many that a

pretty good percentage of the Slashdot FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) page is dedicated to comments and moderation."

Unfortunately the software our forum is based on doesn't allow for a points based moderation system whereby content is user-moderated (yet).

Otherwise, I think Mr E summed it up nicely.

After all, we are here because we want to be here, not because we have to be here.

 

 

[amdretard]

 

 

I agree with most of what BigH has stated above but there are times when the non cycling items take over the whole of the Hub (like around the Super 14 final for instance). I would suggest that the Chit Chat forum should not be listed under latest posts and that any non cycling thread must go into Chit Chat.

 

?

 

I agree with the idea of an email verification although it is pretty easy to get an email address so it doesn't provide much extra benefit.

 

 

 

Just a random idea. I have seen on some sites which are forum based they have seperate latest posts one for the Site based topic and one for random stuff which is unrelated !

 

 

 

So why not create two latests posts frames. One for Cycle related stuff and one for Chitchat and other random stuff ?

 

Just an idea so dont jump down my throat.

[OcTaLL]

regarding the double ID: add some programming to the website that will check if the IP address that is asigned to known members already exists, this is done by a simple IF STATEMENT. If the IP address is existant in the database, decline the double ID entry or new application.

I was involved in a simaliar case with a project I did a few years ago.

This will sort out the double ID problem.

 

e-mails should be valid, eg. no hotmail etc.

 

Many forums in UK has this installed.

 

Ideally posts should be first screaned but I know that admin don't want to sit and read every single post before making it public.

 

Admin controllers: simply delete harmfull posts. zero tolorence.

 

Keep in mind guys, what is best for cycling and the guys that are proned to read these mesages.

there are many things I would like to say on this forum, but I don't think it is advantageous to the general good of cycling, eg. the post on stopping internet stores. There are many names I could name and companies that I can bad mouth, but I don't think it will be of any good to you, the cyclist.

 

If you wouldn't want it said to you, don't say it.

[jellytot]

Nick' date=' jou arrogante houding staan baie min mense indien enige op die forum aan, ek vir een sal nogals my hand opsit as daar gevra word of jou komentaar en inset afbrekend en negatief is op die forum en of ons sonder jou gesanik kan doen... Jy eien jouself die reg toe om alles en almal (especially CSA en Vrystaat fietsry) te kritiseer tot einde niet, en kry eenvoudig nie end daarmee nie...[/quote']

 

Ek stem 100% saam Crux...dit is baie onaangenaam as 'n mens net 'n negatiewe uitkyk op die lewe het, dit kan mense nogal baie frustreer.  Dus verstaan ek baie goed dat sommige hubbers hom al ingevlieg het.  Die ergste is, hy kan nie insien dat hy baie skuldig is aan dinge waarvan hy ander beskuldig nie.

[jellytot]

I can't even remember - it has been a while - let me go and check...

Yip - you are right - then perhaps better moderation is called for.  With a valid email address' date=' it should be quite easy to quitely and politely point out innappropriate behaviour.

And Big H - I have to disagree - if I wanted to read stuff about rugby, I would go to a rugby site. I hate having to sift through pages of topics to find the one or two that interest me.

And who said anything about democracy. This is Admin's site - he can run it any way he pleases.
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I have to agree with BigH, because we're cyclists doesn't mean that that's the only thing/interest in our lives...come on, we're a bunch of interesting people.  If you don't want to read non-cycling stuff, then don't click on 'chit-chat'

[Velouria]

It has gotten to the point now that I don't bother reading a topic until I see someone that I know and whose opinion I enjoy reading (whether I agree or not - like Big H) has commented on the topic. If the topic is good enough for them to read and comment on, then it must be ok...

 

Perhaps a separate place for non cycling stuff.

 

[nellie]

Amen Amen Amen!!! On most people's comments! I mean, sheesh...usually when i had only a few minutes to browse the Hub i could get up and say i had a good laugh, or got something good/usefull out of it - nowadays i can't really say that anymore.

Thanks mods and admin!

[2 X 2]

Ek dink as mense hul eie name, in plaas van skuil name, en 'n foto van hulle self, in plaas van 'n avatar gebruik, al bogenoemde probleme uitgeskakel sal word

 

Ek is heeltemal bereid om myself aan almal bekend te stel

 

Maar nou ja dis my opinie, baie mense mag van my verskil

 

[Tumbleweed]

backlash, i'm one of the many who will disagree. i like the aliases and the avatar. being on the hub is an escape for the daily drudge out there. having an online identity facilitates that escape. and if you're "heeltemal bereid om myself aan almal bekend te stel" how come your name doesn't appear on your profile?

 

mulitple aliases? i'm guilty of that. i had to rejoin after i couldn't log on under my old profile before i became "holy roller". i mailed admin about my problem but got no joy.

[The Saint]

Nice suggestions from everyone but they mean squat. The problem which internet blog sites or forums face is accountability and legal re-course to offending parties. Should these laws be in place people will be far less inclined to post offensive material or insults to fellow users.

As previously stated there are NO laws in South Africa to govern this therefore there is no accountability. A valid e-mail adress, ip adress even the persons name and adress is not going to do you any good. A person can basically say anything he pleases or post anything he pleases on an internet blog site and you cannot prosecute or sue as once again he has not broken any laws.

But this may change if Patricia has anything to do with it.

De Lille calls on government to regulate MXIT and Internet blogging

20-05-2007 ID President Patricia de Lille has called on Government to look into ?urgently implementing legislation that will regulate MXIT and Internet blogging, where members of the public can with impunity slander and defame individuals and organisations they do not like.?

ID President Patricia de Lille has called on Government to look into ?urgently implementing legislation that will regulate MXIT and Internet blogging, where members of the public can with impunity slander and defame individuals and organisations they do not like.?

 

De Lille?s comments follow a surge in activity among young children on MXIT, which makes them vulnerable to sexual predators and paedophiles.

 

The ID leader says she has been ?horrified to hear daily stories from people whose marriages have been destroyed and about children who are led into situations where they are molested by grown men, who use MXIT to lure these girls and boys into their traps.

 

?We are already struggling to repair the social fabric of our society, and to tolerate a platform for this kind of sexual predation and deviance against our young children is inexcusable,? De Lille says.

 

The most recent MXIT crises is the circulation of pornographic images of young girls.

 

?This has gone too far and it is time for Government to intervene to protect our most vulnerable. The right to freedom of expression is not absolute,? says De Lille.

 

Another worrying development in cyberspace is the abuse of blogging, which allows anonymous individuals to post slanderous and defamatory comments with impunity about anyone they choose, without the legal consequences they would face in other more reputable print and electronic media.

 

?We recently came across a blog with slanderous comments about a famous rugby player, a respected reverend in the church and a prominent entertainer.

 

?This blog also included one of our senior politicians, Councillor Simon Grindrod. He reported this matter to the Caledon Square police on Tuesday 15 May and they are currently investigating it,? De Lille says.

 

?Because the problem is that we couldn?t trace the author of the defamatory statements, we will also ask the NIA to investigate.

 

?The reason why the ID cannot expose the website address and its content is we will then also be responsible for spreading the defamation and the slander against the reverend, the ex-Springbok rugby player, the entertainer and the ID politician, amongst others,? says De Lille.

 

?Our legal team has advised us that in terms of the law anyone who republishes, reprints or rebroadcasts defamation of this nature published on any blogging website, is liable for civil and criminal action.

 

?The only way to put a stop to this is to use every legal option to hold not only the website, but also the perpetrator, responsible. This kind of thing must not go unchallenged,? De Lille says.

 

Released by ID President Patricia de Lille ? 084 777 2065

[pastapouch]

Admin' date=' you asked for comments & suggestions
a) This is a cycling forum - let's keep it to cycling. If you want to discuss other stuff then open your own blog elsewhere or visit forums where your particular interest is addressed. Mods & Admins should simply remove threads/postings that digress too far. If you want freedom of speech then open your own site somewhere else - simple.
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thats ridicilous.... are you one of those tunnel vision cyclists? IE only cycling in your life. Some of us have other interests, and there are more than one person on this site who are into photography, who enjoys soccer, (and nude girls) etc.

[Tumbleweed]

cervelo, i'm trying to combine photography and nude girls!

[ewep]

 

 

regarding the double ID: add some programming to the website that will check if the IP address that is asigned to known members already exists' date=' this is done by a simple IF STATEMENT. If the IP address is existant in the database, decline the double ID entry or new application.

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OcTaLL, keep in mind that some work for the same company and thus connect from the same IP.  This will cause a bit of a problem (I will have to beat up Mr. D-Rider EVERY day for a few minutes on the Hub).

 

Perhaps a separate place for non cycling stuff.

I agree!!  But with the thread hijacking this becomes quite difficult.  Some guys (all of us actually) just goes on his/her own tangent in a thread' date=' whether on purpose or by accident!

 

k dink as mense hul eie name, in plaas van skuil name, en 'n foto van

hulle self, in plaas van 'n avatar gebruik, al bogenoemde probleme

uitgeskakel sal word

Ek stem nie saam nie backlash!  Kom ons vat my nick, dis maklik, my voorletter, e en deel van my van wep.  Maar vat nou vir Dirt-Rider, die malle koppie kind skryf vir sy races so in!  Hy is nie Mnr. P. Pompies nie, hy is Dirt-Rider.  En dan, die nicks en avatars is nogal snaaks (Latrinus Emmer, et al.)

ewep2007-05-30 01:02:00

[Sammajoor]

https://www.bikehub.co.za/forum_posts.asp?TID=4634&FID=1&PR=3

 

can i make a suggestion!

 

when registering' date=' users have to supply a valid email address.

 

oh and if you have a look under my details my email is there.

 

keep up the good work.

 

Why not a name as well then when a hubber oversteps the line everybody knows who he is I for one do not have a problem saying my say and i do not hide behind anonimity

VERY VERY GOOD SUGGESTION 1hill@atime BRAVO

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[bobbie]

Ek dink as mense hul eie name' date=' in plaas van skuil name, en 'n foto van hulle self, in plaas van 'n avatar gebruik, al bogenoemde probleme uitgeskakel sal word

 

Ek is heeltemal bereid om myself aan almal bekend te stel

 

Maar nou ja dis my opinie, baie mense mag van my verskil

 

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mmmm  the reason i did not use my "real" name is because of the weirdo's out there... you never know what/who is lurking around - so when i initially signed up i did not want to take any chances.

 

I just feel that  to sit and judge each other," i am better than you because ". etc. etc. belongs  in primary school - voice your opinion by all means, but verbally abuse and attack ... come on!  take it behind the bicycle shed rather (pm eachother or better still... be really brave and face each other at the next race).

 

my 10 cents worth..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nomad]

As iemand beledigend of vulger raak, gooi gou n poll en laat die hubbers stem oor die ou se destiny. 'n Rookie se stem kan 1 tel, dom 2, champ 3 etc.

 

Skors hom dan vir 'n periode, of erase hom permanently!

 

Computer programmers kan enigiets doen!