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24 minutes ago, Frosty said:Given what was said on the Classics thread, that some cyclists are too good to be doing what they do without doping, here is a snapshot of one ride, from last century, with stage results omitted to keep it shorter. Brag points to the person who can identify the rider.
It's happened in the past, and is happening currently, and will most likely happen again in the future. Once in a generation rider capable of doing it all. It's enjoyable to see it, and doesn't mean they're doping. If they are, who cares... it's still good to watch.
I think the clean ones and spectators wanting clean sport actually care.
The reason why top-end sports are so appealing is because you get to witness incredible displays of strength, endurance, and other exceptional talents performed by athletes. However, if these athletes are achieving these feats through the use of performance-enhancing drugs, then it diminishes the value of their accomplishments.
If I were to lose my belief that these athletes are truly exceptional, then I would lose interest in watching them. While it is true that even with doping, it takes a great deal of hard work and talent to reach the top, I do not want to question the authenticity of their results. It is disheartening to think that someone could win simply because they out-doped their competition.
Strip for parts
Keep the frame and rebuild it to a gravel bike
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and here im just wondering when or if the new 12speed TRP drivetrain will be available in SA
3 hours ago, droo said:Follow him down a hill and see if he needs one?
I thought my post was clear enough to state the difference in skill.....
I need one just to ride down jeep tracks
No Dropper.............
Pros really know how to shred but i would want one just to descend down jeep tracks
EDIT: I see his riding an EVO, wonder what the weight saving would be if it was a normal SWorks Epic with a dropper vs the EVO without one.
34 minutes ago, Hairy said:
Did you buy your bike new or used?
If you bought new, you may have been the target market for something ... wider rims, boost, etc.
If you bought second hand you managed to skip the premium for a new bike, and bought a bike from someone who did buy a new bike. At some point you too will end up buying a great condition used bike with a UHD.
If I had an older bike that's not UDH compatible but wanted to upgrade to AXS 12 speed eagle, this new transmission is out of the question.
Assumption here is that current AXS 12 speed will be discontinued and once sold out they out.
I do like this advancement in tech and the 12 speed AXS is something i would be interested to upgrade to.
I am aware that there is will still be stock of older AXS and there is still a 2nd hand market but I am highlighting a valid scenario where this new tech is not available to you unless you upgrade your frame.
18 minutes ago, BaGearA said:Under each one of those there's multiple models
udh is very common on any bike that's been made after 2020
this " just need to buy a new frame......" line is already getting old
i think you would be surprised how many people ride bikes older than 2020....
but then again , if you riding an older bike you probably not the target market....
35 minutes ago, SwissVan said:Hi John, is Amy any relation…..
Wakefield is not her maiden surname. Its her husbands surname
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1 hour ago, DJuice said:They get tested and busted.
Do a search in Bikehub, their was a amateur that recieved a letter from the UCI with a fine in Swiss Franc.
Ah i see
But even so, it seems to me that testing is either done to those finishing in top or near the top positions or if they are under suspicion.
Mid pack and back markers however, are they ever randomly tested?
i mean who would know if a mid/back pack rider was on any ban substances...
once again not condoning the use of ban substances. Just curious about whether this matters
Im interested in understanding whether this will work well with
1) Shimano Chain, Cassette and Cranks (55mm chain line)
2) Bikes that do not have a 55mm chain line (is this adjustable?)
The other thing to consider if this tech gets trickled down to GX is that anyone who currently owns a non UDH or non 148 boost frame wont be able to get this new transmission system.
Shimano focusing on the peoples market with CUES and Sram focusing on the top end market with Eagle.
24 minutes ago, ChrisF said:QUESTION FROM A "FIRST TIME" TEAM -
"What pain meds may they use?"
Kindly provide a link to some sort of site or list that can guide the newbies through this ...
EDIT - for those that have done the Epic ... is there a "race doctor" that could assist them ?
Getting a new appreciation for the fun this little maze can be for the amateurs ....
Just wondering if amateurs will even be tested and does it even matter if they are taking anything that's on the ban list as long as they not causing harm to themselves and others.
Not condoning taking ban substances
This looks like fun
There is nothing sexier than a high end campy mechanical on an Italian bike
the same reason i left my old company...perhaps he just found better work
59 minutes ago, Lieb47 said:I'll be happy to take them if still available.
Sent you a DM
I have a couple of old 29er MTB tires lying around.
Some of them are well worn and some of them still have some mileage on them.
Any ideas what can be done with them ? Can i donate or recycle these?
Based on Southern Suburbs, Cape Town.
41 minutes ago, Bike Hub Features said:What could possibly be more relaxing than riding your bike through new and exciting terrain for several days?
We love nothing more than a fresh (or old and iconic) stage race, so we've compiled a list of mountain bike stage races in South Africa and surrounds to help you plan your racing (holidays) in 2023.
Shoo, is this what stage racing has become.
is it frowned upon if i try to push myself
only a 6 month ban
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cant see what the issue is for a shorter route.
Im guessing hubbers are not the target market for this and as mentioned by others, most other events have short route options.
Having a shorter option has no impact on you doing the full 109km so i dont understand the negativity behind it.
As far as I am concerned nothings changed that actually affects me and my race on the 109km route
42 minutes ago, DieselnDust said:I fell for the hype, I confess. I've never participated in OOT so I was curious.
The entry process was simple and payment easy and safe.
Thereafter radio silence till Thursday when I received an SMS with my race number and start batch.
Registration was on Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. I opted for Saturday morning as I attended a prior commitment with WPMTB.
Saturday Morning parking at Coetzenberg was easy and efficient.
Registration, well this is where things go a bit pear shaped.
Collecting my number was quick and easy, I get this huge brown bag with a small sachet of bike cleaner, 25ml bottle of Squirt and a ladies Roll on.
"where's the event cycling jersey?"
"oh its over there sir in that queue." ok so its not pre-packed with your race number. This probably means that they're throw a garment in the bag on a wat dit en loop basis.
During Entry I selected a my appropriate size for the garment style and brand, a Men's small. I get OFFERED a mens Large....
" I indicated a size small during entry, showing the staff member my entry invoice with garment sizes.
"We don't have any Mens Smalls left. we ran out yesterday because people who ordered a medium weren't happy and swapped out their ordered size for a more appropriate size."
Me:" That's not really my problem. I ordered a Small and now I have to take what I get while others received preferential treatment. Not very fair is it?"
worker says they'll go and check the stock room/truck.
Meanwhile a boytjie comes in and says he's there to collect his rider jersey. Worker checks his name and says that he already collected his top. Boytjie tjunes him "no I didn't".
Your name has been crossed out sir!"
" I didn't collect my top!" he exclaims, so the worker hands him another top.
By now someone else has noticed that I'm standing there for like 1omin already and asks if she can help. I explain the lack of availability of my garment size due to others receiving preferential treatment, She says I can sort you out with a ladies medium, its the same cut just a different size curve. " i reluctantly agree, thinking well at least my wife will have another cycling top. Turns out it fit ok so I agreed to accept it and be on my way.
On my way back to the car I pass Boytjie and his tjommie giggling about he just scored a second riding top after collecting one the day before.
Seem like pretty poor management from Stillwater Sports round the most expensive part of the goodie bag.
So then i line up, late for the front of A Batch due to the admin bungle but way ahead of the start time. I notice there's a lot of weeekend warriors in A batch and start making my way forward. Of course there's a the usual dom bru comments like "spot the racing snake pushing to the front bru!"
Well ya would you like the pushing to happen before or after the gun goes?
Then the gun does go and through the neutral zone the weekend warriors in the fron line up across the road blocking a whole group of snakes. When they get passed the inevitable stupid comments flows again. At this stage I thought it prudent to just keep following the slange so we get to the single track with peeps who can actually ride it. This was a good move as it pretty enjoyable to be riding the singletrack without having to be concerned queues.....or so I thought.
Somewhere they joined the short route onto the long ahead of a pristine section of single track. What a FU of note! dangerous and just irresponsible. Flying through some S-track I come across a group of ladies having a keckle about something. Of course they're standing on the s-track and around it so no one can pass. I rubber necked to see what was going on. Apparently one of them had fallen and scratched a knee. The blood hadn't reached the sock yet so I kept going, nothing to see there I thought.
Once it opened up it was fine but the courses joined 3 times and also into singletrack. Seriously....
Day2 they let the e-bikes go first, thankfully someone woke up in time to make this change. They said it wasn't a race but the start of day 2 took us straight up a steep little climb so clearly the weekend warrior s wanted to be in fornt again so they could show off their walking skills. you know the oh look at me look how I wiggle my hips next to my ,<insert favourite brand of poorly ridden bling machine> type of boytjie.
China's .....don't be so such, just start at the back and do your thang. let riders ride and walkers stay left = every body happy. Instead you complain when you get passed, have a snotty comment to offer when someone else rides past you and continues long after your lungs have pooped. its like Covid reset some okes to maximum Box mode. Shut up ride your bikes or go to the pub and drink. and stop making stupid comments to the ladies who ride better than you do. If' you're crap at riding an MTB then take up rugby or something. Some ladies are just better than you will ever be. Accept and appreciate. Buying an expensive bike doesn't give you credibility and your stupid comments just makes you a box.
Route marking was a pretty poor in places. On Saturday I missed two markers and had to back track, Not sure how many I missed on Sunday.
But I didn't have a near miss with a boytjie in a his bakkie who simply ignored a marshall and missed me by the thickness of a polony skin. Not to mention trail runners who jumped out of bushes like jack-in-a-box.
The race village table didn't all have umbrella's, in Stellenbosch, in Summer..... Ya ok.. That was smart. The best part was the water table at the finish line.
Oh and the boytjies who didn't want to ride hard but wanted to race the queue to get a finishers T.....priceless.
Overall I'd rate the trails as lekker. The event organisation gets a 1 star. I can hear the flack building....."oh be grateful blah blah blah." If it was free I'd be grateful but I paid on time and in full so my expectations are aligned with what was promised.
I'm always happy to ride an event especially after Covid lock down threatened to kill everything. My wife's happy with her new riding jersey but that process left a lot to be desired. I won't be giving OOT another opportunity.
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This was an interesting read and reaffirmed my decision not to enter.
The marketing of this event came across as a 2day social group ride and not a stage race. Which is fine as long as organizers clarify that its not a "race"
Much better event organization than that other 100miler race. Sorry to throw shade.
Marshals and policing were on point today. Well done PPA.
Funride groups worked well together to get over this 170km (my personal experience).
This is now my favourite road event.
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1 hour ago, Trashy said:Not a roadie but after driving past the Boland 100 miler last week, there is just no way I would ever pay to ride on open pubic roads.
Didnt wana say it but Booland 100miler felt like the most unsafe race i ever did. Dont this road users were even aware that there was an event on. It felt like we just a bunch of riders getting together and deciding to ride 150km on public roads
Dopers suck
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but what if Shoes identified as a 16 year old