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Maths and finance ..... not strong with this one If you read any of my comments I said a number of times that they are free to earn what they like. The issue is the way he went about his "grievance". If it was a contractual issue his manager/lawyers could have sorted it out. If he had issues with SARU he should not have been part of the squad (out of principle) if thats what he is sighting his reasons are for leaving mid way and disrupting the entire squad. If he joined that time only to drive his agenda and then hold them ransom then it is even poorer form. What a role model ....Feels like another Rooney/Utd saga .....

With his dad involved .. more like generations

Anyone keen to share a lift/fuel costs?

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/Frans-Steyns-dad-speaks-out-20140612 Money and other stuff .......just no mention of the other stuff .....

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More questions then answers http://www.sport24.c...-break-20140611

Dont get me wrong, there is obviously a lot we dont know and its the professional era and people deserve to be paid ect. Its just the timing of it and the vague statements (from him) causes a ruckus a few days before the first game of the season. Im sure it will wash up soon and all will be told. Good opportunity for Serfontein and happy FdP is starting. South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cornal Hendricks, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Victor Matfield (captain), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Gurthrö Steenkamp Substitutes: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Tendai Mtawarira, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 Lood de Jager, 20 Schalk Burger, 21 Ruan Pienaar, 22 Johan Goosen, 23 Lwazi Mvovo

He is quoted as saying the environment is great, likes the coach and he is playing so is not injured. There is no speculation about that as those are fact - as stated by the person concerned. "The environment in the Springbok squad is fantastic and I would like to state categorically that my relationship with Heyneke Meyer, the rest of the management and my teammates is very good," said Steyn in the statement. Now I ask you - do you think it is fair that he disrupts the entire team during a series. If he has stated he is happy with the above what has changed on two weeks? Besides making one helluva statement by leaving his team mates in the lurch. The footballers who recently didn't go with Bafana got chastised for that but now its ok because he is a rugby player who could earn more and we should bow down before him? That's not sport and does not epitomize the values of being a Springbok and hero for your country. Ill say it once more - its not about the money as people are free to earn the best living possible and if he wanted to 'save' his body to earn Yen then he should have respectably withdrawn from the squad in the beginning not when he was central to their plans. Its about breaking your commitment to your team and country and to do so under mysterious circumstance only derails the preparation of the team.

I stand corrected ... although that is not the full roster for 4 years

With all due respect - other than an injury if he was not totally committed from the beginning then he should not have joined the squad or allowed them to train and practice with him and rather given JS a start and given another centre an opportunity to get experience with the squad. Now compare him to the first choice number 12. Team comes first, body on the line, plays out of his position when required, has humility, plays every game likes its his last .... doesn't use the boks to drive his personal agenda. Doesn't pick and choice when he wants to play What next - all the players are going to strike .... coz that whats it is. Im not getting want I want so ill withdraw and leave my team mates hanging. The face value is he has shown how he values being a bok ...... not for the first time. He already stated its not the environment, team mates or coach ......

Same could be said of many industries and I would guess less than 0.1% of people in their respective trades earn more than a million a year either. The issue for me as I see it is not about the money but the timing of his departure because of money. If there was a dispute, there surely is a contract to dictate the outcome but to leave your team mates and country men in the lurch ... well .....

He was not selected for the boks during his time at Racing Metro 2009-2012 furthermore I was referring to playing in SA and earning European money ..... Promises? No - there would be a contract and im sure he could have gone the legal route if they had broken their obligations. The fact that he is dropping them mid tour is the disgusting part ...he kept other promising players out only to give his team mates, countrymen, fans ect a slap in the face. The KP of rugby ...............

If I had been earning millions from 21 - yes. Secondly many rugby players move into other occupations or even within rugby. So his career is certainly not over. Other rugby pro's do very well for themselves and don't hold their countries unions to ransom. Each to their own - if he wants to earn big bucks then so be it but you cant have your cake and eat it, which is what he wanted to do and now to drop the boks mid tour? A little tacky imo I don't begrudge people earning money and doing well for themselves, far from it. But to play for the boks is a privilege and honour and if he didn't want to be considered because of x,y,z he should have said so from the onset and given the team time to train with other players, other combinations ect. Now he has left them in the lurch and we take on Wales with a new centre combo ....pretty selfish tantrum

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Bulls-ref-assaulted-after-game-20140610

Its all about the money money money money money money http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/Steyn-SARU-in-money-dispute-20140611 One would have thought the millions he has already earned would have been enough .... but like the old saying goes How much money does one man need ................. a little more than he has

Seriously nice watch ... and the rainmaker has waaaayyyyyy to many watches

Ive got no complaints with my Suunto S2. The battery life claim with all this watches is a little fishy and you normally have to reduce accuracy or recording intervals to get the extended life. Ive previously had a Bryton and my advise would be to stay away from that one. Ive heard great things about the 910 as well.

hey hey spoiler alert for those of us with PVR

err 20% .... 2012 and 2013

Why not both?

How would I have compared? Thanks for taking the time to arrange this all!!! Kudo's!

I think its best you stay away from betting on Super Rugby

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2013/04/05/40-of-cops-have-no-licence Only 40% have a drivers License .....

and who is going to be the voice of the animals? They are being associated with such negativity

Fair point - but your experienced changed, he is as inexperience as a Captain then as he is now. If someone asked you 3 years ago if you had ambitions of being the CFO you would have said yes? and possibly taken the Sr FM role that they offered at the time. Don't get me wrong, Ill support him but a little concerning it was not something he has been working towards or wanted as demonstrated when he reversed his decision on the T20 and only made himself available quite late. But he has a cool head and leads by example so he has the attributes