Formula 1...

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

34 minutes ago, Long Wheel Base said:

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Think he was referring to missing the Spain race but not making that mistake again by missing the French race.

[Pure Savage]

So that was probably the most Merc friendly track. We now have Austria and Styrian GP. 

Who is going to be fast - MERC and RBR - We have not seen a tangle yet between Ham and Ver - Austria has some great passing opportunities, maybe we get the first bit of argy bargy between the two.

Mclaren is going to fly here, this was their best circuit last year, Ferrari going to struggle with no power, Aston Martin could do well and Team Gasly will do as well. Alpine, not really sure, this was a nightmare last year for them reliability wise.

Would be nice to have another random podium.

[WrightJnr]

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

Liking the look of the new 2022 cars, a lot smaller and hopefully more nimble. If they could be less reliant on airflow that would help the racing too.

[MrJacques]

3 minutes ago, Steven Knoetze (sk27) said:

Liking the look of the new 2022 cars, a lot smaller and hopefully more nimble. If they could be less reliant on airflow that would help the racing too.

Not so sure about being smaller or nimbler. The minimum weight will actually go up to 790kg. This also causes more issues for tyres.

[Eddy Gordo]

Some of the changes

 

This is apparently the ninth iteration of the concept, and is meant to reduce downforce loss when following another car from 70% loss to just 20% loss in the same situation.

• Reduction in front tyre width to 270mm (rear remains 405mm) with 710mm outer diameter 18" tyres [already confirmed]
• Maximum(or mandatory?) wheelbase of 3400mm (down from 3600 to 3650mm of 2019 cars)
• Front wing rule builds upon the 2019 rule to have a three-element front wing connected directly to nose (i.e., no Y250 vortex), with 50-100mm lesser overall width than 2019, end plates appear to remain similar
• Apparent removal of "stub" nose loophole
• Fins over front wheels to manage front wheel wake
• Flat floor rule is generally abandoned, with no more tea tray etc
• Champcar style underbody inlet with vortex generator strakes. Prescribed tunnel inlet area. The current unrestricted bodywork areas around the bargeboards are presumably eliminated.
• Greater diffuser angle than 2019 F1 cars with the diffuser starting further up the car and ahead of the ahead of the rear axle, similar to older CART cars or the Swift Formula Nippon car
• Rear wing blends into endplates with no more separate vertical pieces
• +50kg on minimum weight due to various (heavy) standard parts

[Long Wheel Base]

1 hour ago, MrJacques said:

Not so sure about being smaller or nimbler. The minimum weight will actually go up to 790kg. This also causes more issues for tyres.

They really need to bring back multiple tyre manufacturers. I saw last week Pirelli were celebrating some achievement about the number of pole positions they have won. Like seriously, they get them all at the moment.

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

2 hours ago, MrJacques said:

Not so sure about being smaller or nimbler. The minimum weight will actually go up to 790kg. This also causes more issues for tyres.

From the side by side comparison shots I have seen the wheelbase is significantly shorter, hence my thinking this would make it nimbler. Weight increase is marginal, and the will keep the COG low so it could be a benefit creating more mechanical grip........

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

1 hour ago, Long Wheel Base said:

They really need to bring back multiple tyre manufacturers. I saw last week Pirelli were celebrating some achievement about the number of pole positions they have won. Like seriously, they get them all at the moment.

I am very much for a spec tyre/ECU, etc. It works well in other series, Pirelli just needs to up their game in F1.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

These are some of the concepts for next year

https://drivetribe.com/p/this-is-what-f1-cars-might-look-bDP7FrAeQUGgioIaiaZW2g?iid=a50zXx8uTp-pCZObjABh4Q

Edited June 23, 2021 by Eddy Gordo

[Pure Savage]

4 hours ago, Steven Knoetze (sk27) said:

Liking the look of the new 2022 cars, a lot smaller and hopefully more nimble. If they could be less reliant on airflow that would help the racing too.

THey are not that much shorter, still over 5m in length and 2m wide, they also going to be heavier.

[Pure Savage]

2 hours ago, Long Wheel Base said:

They really need to bring back multiple tyre manufacturers. I saw last week Pirelli were celebrating some achievement about the number of pole positions they have won. Like seriously, they get them all at the moment.

I dont know, I remember bridgestone and Michelin and it just made the gaps bigger and nothing to do with the team.

[Long Wheel Base]

1 hour ago, Steven Knoetze (sk27) said:

I am very much for a spec tyre/ECU, etc. It works well in other series, Pirelli just needs to up their game in F1.

 

I do agree as it then prevents situations like half the grid from not starting the race like the Americas(I think?) GP many years ago, but then they shouldn't brag about getting your 100th pole when you the sole supplier. Just daft to me.

Maybe a multi sponsor kinda deal like the safety car(I know its AMG and the aston uses the engine but you catch y drift). Even races, everyone that makes it into Q1 uses a Pirelli, the rest use Good Year. Odd races, everyone that makes it into Q1 uses Good Year............... something like that would be cool.

[bertusras]

You must bear in mind that the entire development of a car is based around the tyres. So having different tyres throughout the season will be a massive R&D burden. You need to stick with something throughout the season at least. Spec tyres are not the issue in my opinion. Most world series' have them now and racing overall is just fine. The actual performance of the spec tyre is under question, that's for sure.

[Patchelicious]

By that logic we might as well suggest one engine and chassis manufacturer too then.

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

21 minutes ago, Patchelicious said:

By that logic we might as well suggest one engine and chassis manufacturer too then.

Completely different as the cars manufacturers do not make tyres. Tyre's are the consumable here, should be made to an acceptable standard