PAINKILLERS FOR IRONMAN

[Pronutro]

The damage you will do to your system will be allot worse than 4 weeks of resting my friend. when you kidneys decide they not in the mood for what you expecting them to filter and you start pissing blood it too late to change your mind .That’s why we train not only for fitness but to condition yourself to understand pain , if it’s the good kind or the bad kind where you have to stop.

 

but it’s your body .

 

+1

[Pronutro]

I started to get a "little ITB niggle" and thought I'd see if it goes away. It got worse, I kept on running, hanging on hope. There was just one more event I HAD to do before taking the required rest. It was a month to go to the event and I reckoned it was close enough that it wouldn't cause *too* much problems.

 

That was in July 2008. It has been just over 3 years of on and off, doctor to physio to bio to physio to doctor to another physio. In the last 6 months (after taking a full year off) I have *very* slowly been able to build up some running mileage again. Things look set for me to do my first 21km run (in 3 years) on 9 October. I am not allowing myself to think of the possibility of a 42km yet.

 

Needless to say, it has been a hard lesson to learn

Edited September 27, 2011 by Pronutro

[Thug]

Yes, it's called proper training and preparation so that you can complete the event.

 

Have to agree with TNT1, proper preparation is the key. Put in the hard work and hours upfront and the day itself will be a cruise and no painkillers required.

[rudi-h]

HTFU

 

sorry, someone had to say it

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Have to agree with TNT1, proper preparation is the key. Put in the hard work and hours upfront and the day itself will be a cruise and no painkillers required.

 

Not always the case. Its a very generalised comment.

 

Theres a lot of variables on the day and a lot of people are not that young anymore, 50 year old leg's and body in general will take much more of a battering than 25/30 year old legs / body, theres few athletes in the last third of the field on Comrades day who dont take a painkiller or two to get them through.

[Garfield2010]

Firstly I have put in plenty of hours - more then my previous IM which I completed comnfortably and without issues. Unfortunately the body of a working person have not been made for this kind of thing so one can quite easily pick up issues.

 

Ask any one who has done the IM and he will tell you of various niggles etc they had somewhere along the line.

 

Of course old rugby injuries etc also play a role. You need a good build up as you say but you also need a certain degree of luck I would say.

 

Some seasons are good, some are bad. Do you think James Cunnama's achillies tendon (or more recently his knee) gave him problem because of a lack of preparation or buildup?

 

Ok let me ask you this.

 

In the last 2 weeks of tapering, is it ok to then maybe drink a few Coxflams? Of course I will stop 3 days before the event. If certain areas is inflamed then why not take something to take that away? To be clear, this is well before the race. On race day your body is clear of that.

 

What do you guys think?

[bradwentzel]

I raced this year and last year with two Besemax tabs ten kms from the end of the bike (the only legal painkiller to race on).

 

Advice came from the Physio and the doc, to assist with the ITB issues in the second half of the run leg.

Worked like a charm.

 

Can get at any pharmacy. Like Panado, just bit more sport specific.

 

And anybody who has done the epic and not slukked down a myprodol or three in the last two days of the race is lying...

Edited September 28, 2011 by bradwentzel

[Thug]

Not always the case. Its a very generalised comment.

 

Theres a lot of variables on the day and a lot of people are not that young anymore, 50 year old leg's and body in general will take much more of a battering than 25/30 year old legs / body, theres few athletes in the last third of the field on Comrades day who dont take a painkiller or two to get them through.

 

Maybe it is a generalised comment but it worked for my sub 12 hr on 47 year old legs.

[Cassie]

The damage you will do to your system will be allot worse than 4 weeks of resting my friend. when you kidneys decide they not in the mood for what you expecting them to filter and you start pissing blood it too late to change your mind .That’s why we train not only for fitness but to condition yourself to understand pain , if it’s the good kind or the bad kind where you have to stop.

 

but it’s your body .

 

Echo that!!

 

I was cycling with a kidney specialist over the weekend, and he told me about all the case of renal failure that he had to deal with (even 2 of his doctor friends!!) as a result of heavy excersize and taking wrong pills (MYPRODOLS in this case!)...I took one on the ride and he almost flipped...said SA is the only country in the world that still prescribe Myprodols...it's bad **** that!!

 

so, nottom line...stay off the pain killers when training!!

[pastapouch]

You want to be an Ironman... deal with it

[Garfield2010]

No, I want to be a Myprodol-man!

[Minion]

.said SA is the only country in the world that still prescribe Myprodols..

Is that really because it's bad or possibly because it's patented and made by Adcock Ingram, a South African pharmaceutical company and may not have ever been marketed oversees?

[Shebeen]

isn't ironman in april?

do you need the painkillers for the training because it is so frikken boring?it's making you shout for no reason too.

 

[Cassie]

Is that really because it's bad or possibly because it's patented and made by Adcock Ingram, a South African pharmaceutical company and may not have ever been marketed oversees?

 

You might have a point in the SA based company...but, it's got to do with the combination of ingredients spesifically in Myprodol...one is a codeine derrivative (or something like that...). For me the bottom line wat that this doctor had treated athletes with kidney failure...who took myprodols during strenious sporting activities! What he mentioned was that when you are dehydrated (or getting there...) the worst thing to do was to take something with those combination of active ingredients...it causes permanent kidney damage!

[SwissVan]

 

Ok let me ask you this.

 

In the last 2 weeks of tapering, is it ok to then maybe drink a few Coxflams? Of course I will stop 3 days before the event. If certain areas is inflamed then why not take something to take that away? To be clear, this is well before the race. On race day your body is clear of that.

 

What do you guys think?

 

 

 

Are you sure your body will be clear, or is that just layman’s logic or hope?

I’m not sure when your goal event ( November?) is taking place but instead of asking hubbers (no offense hubbers) if it’s ok to take xyz pain killer rather go and discuss the issue with a sports Doctor, there is still plenty time to recuperate sufficiently so as not to need painkillers.

As has been mentioned earlier most sports people take pain killers and get away with it, it’s a risk you take and only you can make the decision but when you do make the decision it should be based on reliable information.

 

IMO from some of your posts my gut feel is you have over done it in training, rotor cuff and itb niggles or injuries are usually a sign of some sort of excessive training overload i.e. to much, to fast, to often….Carry on like this and most likely you will one day be posting about how pissed you are because you cannot swim /run / cycle anymore due to some niggle injury.

Problem is these things are cumulative and don’t always become a problem at the time of overload but often later on i.e. during your taper or the actual event.

 

Lecture over

[SwissVan]

 

And anybody who has done the epic and not slukked down a myprodol or three in the last two days of the race is lying...

 

 

Think you are seriously misinformed or just trying to justify a habit?

Edited September 28, 2011 by SwissVan