fandacious Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Its still my opinion that this thing is much deeper than just a guy who wanted to dope to get a medal interesting... how so?
Guest Omega Man Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I've got a prediction. He's gonna come clean. In a book (I know I'd buy it) He's gonna make millions and millions out of the sales. He's also going to paint himself as the innocent victim of a corrupt system and point the finger at everyone. There's no way anyone who competed at that level at that time could possible have been clean anyway. In doing so he'll take down most of the pro peleton, ASO and the UCI. He'll once again be restored to the darling of American sports cos the playing field was level after all. All of them were cheating. And anyone who say's he wasn't is either stupid or lying. Or both. He'll use the money and publicity generated from the sales of the book to propel himself into politics and at least be Governor of Texas.
Danger Dassie Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Did read them! Have to remember that it was his job and he did what was expected (or what he had to do) to be the best Its still my opinion that this thing is much deeper than just a guy who wanted to dope to get a medal Obviously, it also makes him no less guilty.What many seem to be missing and failing to look past emotive arguments is not popping a few pills or simply doping up to get a meda.It was the fact that this was built on a bullying systematically corrupt machine, whereby if you spoke out, you thrown under the bus. ie - Filippo Simeoni speaking against Dr Ferrari for example, the court action against Kimmage.LA is guilty, but he isn't alone. Thats the issue, guilty as he is, others need to be brought to book, and it's those who are now attempting to throw LA under the same bus. http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2012/michael-ashenden-armstrong-triangle
Eldron Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 no. that is why he went to the lengths he did to cheat. it was his everything. read the books then come back with an opinion It's all about the TdF....and a few business interests... Sure a few have disappeared but I reckon Lanceyboy is A OK in the "what fills up my day" department.
Squier Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 no. that is why he went to the lengths he did to cheat. it was his everything. read the books then come back with an opinion What lengths? He had a doctor that gave him some epo and transfusions (mostly). You make it sound as if he had to take a ring to Mordor to get the stuff.
Squier Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Sure, there was motoman but it's not like hamilton quit doping when he moved to csc. Everyone had a plan and a 50% hematocrit level. Reading the books its not nearly as sinister as you make it out to be.
eddy Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Did read them! Have to remember that it was his job and he did what was expected (or what he had to do) to be the bestnot to be a middle of the pack nobody There. Fixed it for you
Wyatt Earp Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 There. Fixed it for you All the drugs in the world won't make a middle of the pack nobody a tour winner.
fandacious Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 What lengths? He had a doctor that gave him some epo and transfusions (mostly). You make it sound as if he had to take a ring to Mordor to get the stuff. what are you smoking? he went to extraordinary lengths to cheat. not just some random doctor coming and injecting him now and then.
fandacious Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 All the drugs in the world won't make a middle of the pack nobody a tour winner. mmm... middle of which pack? middle of the argus F bunch, ja sure. But middle of the TDF pack? I'd beg to differ. They are all so closely matched, the smallest performance improvements make a huge difference eddy 1
Wyatt Earp Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I must have misunderstood you. I thought the first 3 lines of this post inferred that you were skeptical about the image being a statement. All my subsequent posts were based on that incorrect assumption. I apologize. Apologies from my side too, you were arguing the one side of the coin and I was arguing the image.I stil maintain the picture didn't really need much care in putting it together, the fisheye effect on the walls is a common occurrence with 360 panorama.
Wyatt Earp Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 mmm... middle of which pack? middle of the argus F bunch, ja sure. But middle of the TDF pack? I'd beg to differ. They are all so closely matched, the smallest performance improvements make a huge difference The comment was corrected to middle of the pack NOBODY.That's middle of the pack at any event.
fandacious Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 The comment was corrected to middle of the pack NOBODY.That's middle of the pack at any event. oh ja for sure. all the drugs in the world wouldnt even get me past the first stage of the tdf, let alone finishing it
Wyatt Earp Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 oh ja for sure. all the drugs in the world wouldnt even get me past the first stage of the tdf, let alone finishing it Sis man, you can give yourself more credit than that
carbon29er Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 oh ja for sure. all the drugs in the world wouldnt even get me past the first stage of the tdf, let alone finishing itYou might have to get off the big blade once or twice!
Lucky Luke. Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Oh common Luke! Do you really think that those jersey's is all he's got left? Allot of people would like to think with all that is happening that he must be a broken man and now all of a sudden he regrets everthing and his world is tumbling down. Maybe there is more to life than just cycling for this guy. Sure it is a *** thing that is happening but "this too shall pass" (hey Kevin?) Jaco I don't know LA, all I can say is what I see in this pic that he wanted us all to see. It looks lonely down there with a bunch of jerseys that no longer correspond to the history books. Lance himself did say going down for drugs would mean he lost everything - sponsors, legacy, income, the good faith of cancer sufferers, and and and. Watch the Four Corners documentary, it's a good one. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cnn-armstrong-documentary-deposition-doping-382302
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