Lance Armstrong Banned and Stripped of TDF Titles

[walkerr]

11 team mates turn on him now, but chose to say nothing at the time?

 

For me, that weakens my impression on the team mates more than it does LA. If they accepted at the time, and decided to say nothing, they should have had the guts to stick by that decision. If they didn't agree with it then, they should have said something then.

 

I'm not condoning LA - or hating him for what happened. His team mates though? They suck IMO

[Joe Low]

 

......I dont even take myprodols.

 

 

Myprodols huh? Do they work, do they huh huh where can i get some , what do they do? gimme gimme.

[Garfield2010]

Myprodols huh? Do they work, do they huh huh where can i get some , what do they do? gimme gimme.

 

Hehehehe!!!! It makes you go faster for longer. Just make sure you take 3 disprins with it to mask the substance.

[Shebeen]

(thanks to science of sport)

 

Two excellent pieces on the USADA-Armstrong case. From @Bonnie_D_Ford http://t.co/8uMK2FAH and @jasonWSJhttp://t.co/sIbY6FA0

[TNT1]

Hehehehe!!!! It makes you go faster for longer. Just make sure you take 3 disprins with it to mask the substance.

Do you mix the disprins into your wee at the control?

[Mellow]

Hier is `n klomp onstabiele fokkers op die hub.

 

hehe Amen

[Mellow]

now that we cant argue over...did he.. did he not... anymore we're back to you me he..

[Bat-ass]

Hansie Cronje

Lance Armstrong

Ben Johnson

Ray MacCauley

Bill Clinton

King David

Sai Baba

 

Talented people who inspire, do good and cheat.

 

Its not black and white out there. Its how we deal with our "fallen idols" or those of others that needs looking at.

 

Why do you want to deny the evil or why do you want to point the evil out.

 

It says more about us & our needs, than them.

 

(ok Ben Johnson maybe didnt do that much good but in Seoul, it was the most amazing 100mtrs of all time , beating goodie-goodie anti-doping Lewis, only to be brought down the next day by his +ve test)

 

You forgot the greatest one of all...... Tiger Woods!!!

But leave Bill Clinton out of it.. Theres nothing wrong with a blow job under the desk!!

[SwissVan]

Hier is `n klomp onstabiele fokkers fietsryers op die hub.

 

Fixed - Its the cycling forum you logged into not that other one

 

[Shebeen]

I think history will judge Frank and Betsy as heroes in this, just shows how hard ti was to speak out.

 

http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/FA+Exhibit+I+2004-08+Hincapie-Andreu+Email+Exchange+REDACTED.pdf

[Wyatt Earp]

 

 

Talented people who inspire, do good and cheat.

 

Its not black and white out there. Its how we deal with our "fallen idols" or those of others that needs looking at.

 

 

So true Joe.

 

I doubt there is too many people that can turn around and say that L.A. didn't have even the tiniest impact on their lives.

I can see it all round, pre. L.A. most cyclists were pretty heavy set and didn't really care about their weight, nope it was all heart rate ,training and power.

 

Fortunately for me he was never one of my idols, I admit to having had admiration for his athletic ability.

 

Well not long to go and Armstrong will be completely forgotten only to make an appearance with possibly racing pigeons and perhaps a quick cameo on Hangover 4 or 5 perhaps.

[Mellow]

Fixed - Its the cycling forum you logged into not that other one

 

 

not quite... could be reference to weak core muscles, or riser bars with bar ends. the fokkers part referred to the mental stability of us hubbers

[E1A104]

11 team mates turn on him now, but chose to say nothing at the time?

 

For me, that weakens my impression on the team mates more than it does LA. If they accepted at the time, and decided to say nothing, they should have had the guts to stick by that decision. If they didn't agree with it then, they should have said something then.

 

I'm not condoning LA - or hating him for what happened. His team mates though? They suck IMO

 

Does la suck or is he safe because he has denied it from the beginning and will continue to deny it?

[NotSoBigBen]

not quite... could be reference to weak core muscles, or riser bars with bar ends. the fokkers part referred to the mental stability of us hubbers

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Does la suck or is he safe because he has denied it from the beginning and will continue to deny it?

 

Reading this thread it sounds more like a Monica Lewinsky move.

[walkerr]

Does la suck or is he safe because he has denied it from the beginning and will continue to deny it?

 

To me? He competed in a sport where doping was rife, and it seems pretty much everyone was doing it - so if he ended up the best in that sport at the time, that makes him a better doper, and a better cyclist when on dope. The question to me is not "would he have been the best if he had not doped" but "would he have still been the best if everyone had not doped". We'll never know the answer to that.

 

Those so-called team mates who have now come out and stabbed him in the back had a choice at the time - go along with it and be a doper, or speak out and try and change the sport. In my view, they made their choice at the time - it's too late for them to try and reverse that and change the sport now, they became part of those who believe doping and cycling go hand in hand. That choice and the ability to change the sport has now been handed down to the current generation of cyclists, they must decide what sport they want to be a part of.