V12man Posted April 23, 2014 Posted April 23, 2014 That's weird but sounds about right. Why is that? On the IDT I averaged about 52km/h to give me an average wattage of just over 200. On the road I averaged 34 but the wattage was about 220?? You probably don't have enough resistance set on your IDT - you will likely always see differences between road and IDT sessions - even at the same perceived intensity - jack the trainer resistance up and gear down a bit to get cadence (speed) into the desired range for comparison. If you increase the amount of cooling you get by adding fans on the IDT, it gets closer to outdoor numbers, and I suspect muscle cooling contributed - but I have not seen any science that confirms that (or denies either) so it remains a suspicion.
Bianchisti Posted April 23, 2014 Posted April 23, 2014 You probably don't have enough resistance set on your IDT - you will likely always see differences between road and IDT sessions - even at the same perceived intensity - jack the trainer resistance up and gear down a bit to get cadence (speed) into the desired range for comparison. If you increase the amount of cooling you get by adding fans on the IDT, it gets closer to outdoor numbers, and I suspect muscle cooling contributed - but I have not seen any science that confirms that (or denies either) so it remains a suspicion.Agreed. Think I have to find a gear/cadence I can push for 20 minutes around my threshold so will look at the road test parameters and simulate that. Today's test was mostly in the endurance zone (that's no good) with bits in the threshold area. It's time I push less granny gears so onto a threshold improvement plan first up. Will see if I can figure that out. It was 15 degrees outside around midday in Jozi today an I was still sweating like a pig without the moving air. Can't believe how low I've been working in the zones actually. Thanks for all your comments guys. Think I'll do some climbing tomorrow and have a closer look at the zones I'm in. Save the test for another day.
V12man Posted April 23, 2014 Posted April 23, 2014 Agreed. Think I have to find a gear/cadence I can push for 20 minutes around my threshold so will look at the road test parameters and simulate that. Today's test was mostly in the endurance zone (that's no good) with bits in the threshold area. It's time I push less granny gears so onto a threshold improvement plan first up. Will see if I can figure that out. It was 15 degrees outside around midday in Jozi today an I was still sweating like a pig without the moving air. Can't believe how low I've been working in the zones actually. Thanks for all your comments guys. Think I'll do some climbing tomorrow and have a closer look at the zones I'm in. Save the test for another day. It does take a bit of practice to get your pacing right during the test (3 - 5 tests) - and you should always follow the standard Hunter/Alan protocol of doing the test - I have this setup as a garmin workout if someone wants a pre-built one, happy to share it. It also helps to get some cheer leaders during the test - a bit of verbal and non verbal encouragement does wonders. Bianchisti, IronTree, G e r h a r d Odendaal and 1 other 4
G e r h a r d Odendaal Posted April 23, 2014 Posted April 23, 2014 It does take a bit of practice to get your pacing right during the test (3 - 5 tests) - and you should always follow the standard Hunter/Alan protocol of doing the test - I have this setup as a garmin workout if someone wants a pre-built one, happy to share it. It also helps to get some cheer leaders during the test - a bit of verbal and non verbal encouragement does wonders. There are good people on the Hub and there are some that are not. You're a good person. Jakkals. 1
'Dale Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Weekly TSS, 567. Was wondering when you're gonna have an easier week on your prep for the Giro
Smartie Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Weekly TSS: 746 (but not much during the week, skewed with 310 on Sunday)
Jakkals. Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Was wondering when you're gonna have an easier week on your prep for the Giro hahah, I had a 2 active recovery rides(32&25) on tuesday and thursday. Then a mtb stage race on saturday and sunday. 60km(318) and 36km(191)(shorter due to weather conditions) Edited April 29, 2014 by antonj
Jakkals. Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Stock take this weekend, dont expect to much from me on monday morning.
'Dale Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Stock take this weekend, dont expect to much from me on monday morning. The burden of being an enthusiastic amateur - EMPLOYMENT OUT OF THE SADDLE :-(
rpedro Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Got my biggest 1 day TSS of 849 this past weekend doing the Trans Karoo 240km MTB race.
'Dale Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Got my biggest 1 day TSS of 849 this past weekend doing the Trans Karoo 240km MTB race. Nicely done, RP.Phew! rpedro 1
Jakkals. Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Got my biggest 1 day TSS of 849 this past weekend doing the Trans Karoo 240km MTB race. If i may ask, how much has your TSB dropped after that TSS.
rpedro Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 If i may ask, how much has your TSB dropped after that TSS. It dropped from +3.8 TSB to -90.6 TSB
Jakkals. Posted May 2, 2014 Posted May 2, 2014 It dropped from +3.8 TSB to -90.6 TSB siek!!! I can probly expect the same come Trans Baviaans. I will try to be a bit more +, not more than +10 though. rpedro 1
'Dale Posted May 4, 2014 Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) 907IF 0.73Biggish base week with some KOM chasing 1min peaks here and there Easy week coming up Edited May 4, 2014 by ' Dale
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