T-Bob Posted April 26, 2017 Share Jeez, there I was thinking I'd gone and got a decent fork in the pike and now all I'm hearing is that the former bench mark of trail forks is a lame duck! Darn... may have to get me some Vorsprung action. Thanks for validating another purchase that will have other members of the family shaking their heads. Again. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipV Posted April 26, 2017 Share Jeez, there I was thinking I'd gone and got a decent fork in the pike and now all I'm hearing is that the former bench mark of trail forks is a lame duck! Darn... may have to get me some Vorsprung action. Thanks for validating another purchase that will have other members of the family shaking their heads. Again. No bru relax. Font let other's analysis paralysis form your opinion for you. Unless you really want to spend money based on the opinions of others, then be my guest. T-Bob and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bob Posted April 26, 2017 Share No bru relax. Font let other's analysis paralysis form your opinion for you. Unless you really want to spend money based on the opinions of others, then be my guest. Thanks! Actually it was a bit tongue in cheek as my attention to the finer points of what its happening to my kit is very limited. I ignore tweaking any of the dials, I set and forget and only thing I do do is make sure after every ride the red ring is 95 - 99% to the top. I wouldn't know if my negative space is too little or my tokens are too much. It rides, it goes over things and it saves my ass when I run out of talent! Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and PhilipV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogent Industries Posted April 26, 2017 Share Just wanna chip in here on the Luftkappe. I have done 5 upgrades before we launched it on the site to get a real world feel for it and everyone was blown away with the performance. That combined with some SKF seals really makes a Pike buttery smooth and super compliant on the small stuff with great mid stroke feel. I normally remove one token. If you are thinking of doing it yourself use a hair drier to heat up the shaft before you attempt removing the piston as some factory guys obviously have some Loctite happy days from my experience. Please shout if you need installation advise or have any other pre-sales questions. Will gladly help you guys get setup. Edited April 26, 2017 by jaqkar Skylark and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermophage Posted April 26, 2017 Share Get a Mattoc 2 PRO with IRT air spring side tune...half the price of a Piek and kicks arse!!! Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Yo-Yo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo Posted April 26, 2017 Share Cheeky Hijack: all this talk of Vorsprung reminded me I had a Corset air can in the draw for a Fox rear shock so I've put it up for sale. Fitted and ridden once to an RP I was selling to see what it was like. Was keeping it for another RP I was getting but ended up getting a killer deal on a Monarch Deb' that meant I was left with the corset. https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/245514-vorsprung-corset-air-sleeve-for-fox/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylark Posted April 27, 2017 Share Get a Mattoc 2 PRO with IRT air spring side tune...half the price of a Piek and kicks arse!!! Are those available in Sa? What are the services like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermophage Posted April 27, 2017 Share Are those available in Sa? What are the services like?Ya they are available here, but cheaper and simpler to get from CRC. Order Monday morning with DHL, have in hands Wednesday afternoon Self service is easy and Droo at Stoke knows his way around mine so no worries there either. Hairy, Skylark and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Lawless Posted April 27, 2017 Share Just wanna chip in here on the Luftkappe. I have done 5 upgrades before we launched it on the site to get a real world feel for it and everyone was blown away with the performance. That combined with some SKF seals really makes a Pike buttery smooth and super compliant on the small stuff with great mid stroke feel. I normally remove one token. If you are thinking of doing it yourself use a hair drier to heat up the shaft before you attempt removing the piston as some factory guys obviously have some Loctite happy days from my experience. Please shout if you need installation advise or have any other pre-sales questions. Will gladly help you guys get setup.Oy vey! One can not unsee what has been seen...this is going to cost me. Can you guys not perhaps do the installation as well? Edited April 27, 2017 by Pyka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogent Industries Posted April 27, 2017 Share Oy vey! One can not unsee what has been seen...this is going to cost me. Can you guys not perhaps do the installation as well? One shall not be disappointed! I am based in GP but can point you to someone in your area that can help you with installation. If all else fails you can send me your fork and will do the upgrade for you here and ship it back at my cost. Will shoot you a pm. Edited April 27, 2017 by jaqkar Johnny Lawless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane_Bosch Posted April 29, 2017 Share Put 2 more tokens in my Pike this morning. Feels like a Marzo now. Just messing. It does have a coil feel tho which is good. With the 1 token it felt a bit harsh on the small stuff. Chris reckons I should get one of those MRP Gubbins but I just can't justify the cost. Edited April 30, 2017 by Duane_Bosch popcorn_skollie and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylark Posted April 30, 2017 Share Can you put tokens in older Revelation forks, I'm assuming you can put a token in pretty much any air fork if they are available for that particular fork or if not you could still DIY it. Do tokens help with soaking up early to mid travel small bumps etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 30, 2017 Share Put 2 more tokens in my Pike this morning. Feels like a Marzo now. Just messing. It does have a coil feel tho which is good. With the 1 token it felt a bit harsh on the small stuff. Chris reckons I should get one of those MRP Gubbins but I just can't justify the cost.Luftkappe. 1200 and makes it "Like the lyrik" Replaces the stock piston and is exactly what RS have done in the "new" pike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 30, 2017 Share Can you put tokens in older Revelation forks, I'm assuming you can put a token in pretty much any air fork if they are available for that particular fork or if not you could still DIY it. Do tokens help with soaking up early to mid travel small bumps etc?They allo you to lower the pressure in your fork which enhances small hump sensitivity whilst making it more progressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Lawless Posted April 30, 2017 Share They allo you to lower the pressure in your fork which enhances small hump sensitivity whilst making it more progressiveIs this very different from what the tokens do Myles? Edited April 30, 2017 by Pyka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 30, 2017 Share Is this very different from what the tokens do Myles?Yes. Tokens don't reduce the negative air chamber volume, they reduce the positive air chamber volume. Luftkappe increases the negative air chamber volume, thereby making it more sensitive to small bumps and chatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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