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Are you for real?????

Just in this thread alone there are numerous firsthand responses of how beneficial wearing a helmet was....

THAT is my statistics...nuff said!

Posted

Are you for real?????

Just in this thread alone there are numerous firsthand responses of how beneficial wearing a helmet was....

THAT is my statistics...nuff said!

 

Dude look at the name... It's just another troll who clearly has nothing better to do with his time...

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I have had many tumbles, 2 bad ones, the first when I was still at schOol on the tar, concussion woke up in hospital NO HELMET

The second one broke a bell helmet in 2 there was a hole in the helmet the size of a golf ball from the rock my head would have hit,,,,,,,

I have said it a million times on the hub

 

2$ HELMET FOR A 2$ HEAD, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE'S HEADS ARE NOT WORTH PROTECTING

 

and going to the video, if you have been to Europe you will UNDERSTAND things are a lot more controlled as far traffic is concerned there than it is here

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Is there another source of info we are basing this discussion on because what was presented in the video, while right is also wrong.

 

If a person wants to discredit something, it is as simple as making it entertaining. This was a presentation, not a debate and people would have left there with an opinion to discuss later.

 

I am not disputing the test methods he says he spent 2 years examining but I do see that his point of "minimal tests" was breezed through and supported by the concept of "profit through fear", which is his ultimate point and as we know, conspiracies are juicy topics - especially if you target the auto industry!

 

Marketing fear: Was this his point that made bike subscription/sales drop after fear was used to drive helmet sales? I tend to agree with that because it is an underhanded tactic used in the ad industry to grab a percentage of people (any increase shows success). To debunk the benefit of wrapping your head in multiple layers of impact absorbing material because the manufacturer's PR company went for the jugular, is short sighted and creates confusion when so many people have first-hand experience with the benefits as described by the tests.

 

Fear is used as a selling tool along with sex and the promise of riches. Just so happens his talk was on helmets, it could have been on hair shampoo or razor blades attracting the opposite sex - have we been able to prove any of it works as advertised?

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Latrinus have you stats to the contrary. I'd like to see them.

What he says is the truth re culture of fear. Drives me mad, and I refuse to subscribe to it.

However I'll always wear a helmet as I do take chances, and have broken a few helmets.

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Saddest thing I have ever done was go to the funeral of a 10 yr old friend of one of my kids who lost control of her bike down a small hill outside her home and veered into a lamp post head first. She had no helmut on... would it have saved her? I don't know but it may have given her a fighting chance.

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This old chestnut comes around time and time again - I remember it well - in different form- from the biker lobby in the States saying that helmets make your head heavier, forcing your neck to move/rotate more than it would.

 

On a racetrack there are no curbstones, no lamp-posts, no stop signs, no cars.

One of those elements does not care how far your head rotates.

 

The world has changed. I rode my bike through primary and high school with no helmet and no cares. Fact is - there were less cars, and the drivers of those cars were far more aware of cyclists and motorcyclists (remember the "Think Bike" campaign of the eighties?).

 

We need helmets now. I think it is also a legal requirement too.

 

Imagine trying to claim from the RAF having had no helmet on....

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When exactly was the last time a cyclist got hit by a car and the helmut saved his life....

 

Send us pics of you riding in the road without a helmet.

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Horses for courses I say.

 

I used to go to Copenhagen a lot - I mever wore a helmet there. Nobody did. That's just how it worked.

 

When I get on my bike to train in SA I wear a helmet.

 

Sometime when I go for a ride through the 'hood on my SSer I don't wear a helmet. Its not the smartest thing to do but I really enjoy it.

 

Everything in life is risk an reward.

 

I do, hoever, strongly object to anyine (especially the state) trying to tell anyone else they dhould wear a helmet. Personal choice and personal freedom!

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It's certainly a complex issue...proven efficacy.....personal choice...blablabla.

 

If one is arguing from a legislation angle, then motorists and their passengers should wear them too, assuming the purpose of legislation is to protect people from their own and other people's stupidity.

 

Arguing from an efficacy point of view, is there solid, empirical evidence to show that they work? Lot's of us know people who are still alive thanks to the polystyrene pot, so maybe they do?

 

On that note.....http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC300808/pdf/32701459.pdf

 

It's always an interesting discussion.

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