Jan Ullrich says Lance Armstrong...

[Danger Dassie]

I wasn't aware of that but it puts the UCI on the lower than sharkshit rack for me. I remember other pathological liar winners too. Why were they invited?

 

It is a mess and has spoilt the greatest show on earth for me.

 

For all the failings of UCI, with the mentioned event you mean ASO. ....

[Johan Bornman]

For all the failings of UCI, with the mentioned event you mean ASO. ....

 

I feel like al proper poepol here but what is ASO?

[bassasdaindia]

I have to agree

 

this whole issue is a horrible mess !

[Sniffie]

I feel like al proper poepol here but what is ASO?

Amaury Sport Organisation. Owners of the Tour de France and other events.

[Maniax]

Nope, keep it black and empty as a memorial and warning. If I was Eddie Merx I would want Amstrong's name next to mine in the hall of fame.

[scotty]

Nope, keep it black and empty as a memorial and warning. If I was Eddie Merx I would want Amstrong's name next to mine in the hall of fame.

I assume that's doping hall of fame, and yup Merx was also one so he would want Armstrong next to his.

[Danger Dassie]

I feel like al proper poepol here but what is ASO?

 

Sniffie said it first. One of the events being the Dakar.

[deanbean]

If there was just one clean rider he was done out of a fair competition.

 

Therefore...

The reason it cannot be entertained.

The clean riders that got forced out of the game wouldn't have agreed with it.

[JGR]

The doping/cheating goes back a lot further than epo so the precedent was set a long time ago and merely refined over time. LA was also a good tactician and got into the heads of his rivals and had some beat before the race started. Being a winner is as much a metal game as physical. LAs only aim was the TDF and everything centered around that so I think there are other explanations other than he doped better than everyone as to why he won 7rs straight. He was the best of a doped up field and would more than likely have beaten the non dopers undoped, if not him certainly others in the peloton. I think if the let the other 'cheaters' to keep theirs its hypocritical but as some have mentioned riders bust after the event - FL & AC have lost theirs but retrospective positives besides LA has kept theirs ......its a mess

[Craig 1]

As a sports person I cant believe I am agreeing to Ulrich, but it should be stated in a way that that era of tour de france is different to the now tour de france era, there should be no comparsion but allow lance the right to say he won merely because he was the best doper of his time.

[the nerd]

Its just a mess. Some who dope get to keep the result some don't, some shake the hands of the stage winners every year some don't...

[Pappa Bear]

Well if everybody was cheating.... Lets rather scrap the TDF for those years and say there was not contest because everybody gave a flying F about the rules thus no TDF.

[Andre 77]

Agree 100%

 

[TALUS]

Just put an asterisk next to his name and whoever else have lost their yellow jersey...

 

Eg

*dopkop

I agree - mark it for what it was "*confirmed Doped". Anyway - off to the Tuli - by the time I am back on the Hub, you guys and gals will have finally sorted out the world...!

[Mavro]

"I think it is just terrible and disgusting how everyone has treated Lance Armstrong, especially after what he achieved, winning seven Tour de France races while on drugs.

 

When I was on drugs, I couldn't even find my bike."

 

- Willie Nelson

[Wyatt Earp]

And when I called him the fall guy I was being accused of being a fan and supporting dopers, all in the same time everyone saw Hamilton as an angel and the 'saviour' of the doping peloton.