Rata Del Spruit Posted April 2, 2014 Share Should have ponied up for a better lawyer, methinks. Whoever they got to write this letter is pretty clueless as to the real issue at stake. And a PR advisor at the same time. You never win a war on social media using lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted April 2, 2014 Share So after a couple of us were torched for simply suggesting that ("maybe") there are some undisclosed aspects to this entire sage.... it now "seems" that the OP is probably not as squeaky clean as others would have suggested. 1. Did he know he was getting a "Replica" - and did he actually ask for a Replica? Because it does change things if they sold him an unbranded frame, and then he commissioned the replica paint and decals. 2. This does make one wonder why, if he actually was sold a FAKE (100% unbeknownst to him), why would he be happy to keep the group set and some bits and settle for just returning the frame and some other parts? 3. Also... was the invoice specifically requested by the OP to state "DOGMA", perhaps so that he can have insurance cover, etc? Who knows? 4. Just a comment for interest sake - even though ASG might be appointed as the exclusive distri for the territory, they cannot simply act on behalf of Pina without explicit instruction and powers to protect their IP/Brand/Trademarks, etc. The original owner has to act or explicitly cede this to the distributor. 5. I mentioned in one of my posts that the OP simply registered on thehub the day of the first post - who knows, maybe he was advised or it was suggested to him by someone or a company or another party, who might have a vested interest in the saga to do so? 6. It's funny to me that the OP actually now owns a Fake and a Grey, because strictly speaking the bike he purchased in Aus would be considered grey here? 7. Lastly, it's really funny to me how many people on this thread have A LOT to say about counterfeit aspect, but how many of them actually download/share movie and series without even blinking an eye or thinking twice. There is no difference to this, piracy and counterfeit is rather close in my opinion. 8. You see many people taking off the 318i/320i badge of their shiney new BMW and put a kit/mags/options etc on, and then sticking on a M-bage, etc. Also similar in my books, it's FAKE, isn't it? * AND JUST SO THAT WE ARE CLEAR: I don't know the OP, I don't know the SHOP, I have absolute no connection or involvement in this matter. I don't have replica frames or bikes, I don't sell them or promote them. I've simply just from the start wondered about the OP's agenda and what other aspects there are to the saga... Just personal opinion, you don't have to like it. Always good to ask questions. Always bad to make assumptions. Always wise to wait for all the facts before pronouncing. r0adrunner and Brent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPSLICK Posted April 2, 2014 Share Daniel Kahneman, Nobel prize winner in Economics demonstrated that people become risk seeking when all their options are bad. Please contact my attorney so you can arrange my refund with him. Perhaps you can pay his fees as well?ME I WOULDNT HOLD MY BREATHE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy hardtail Posted April 2, 2014 Share I once bought Oakleys at the side of the road for R35. Turns out they were fake too... Ramrod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUMEYA Posted April 2, 2014 Share Daniel Kahneman, Nobel prize winner in Economics demonstrated that people become risk seeking when all their options are bad. Please contact my attorney so you can arrange my refund with him. Perhaps you can pay his fees as well? O, And welcome to the Hub Andrew, hope you stick around after all this is sorted and behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPSLICK Posted April 2, 2014 Share I once bought Oakleys at the side of the road for R35. Turns out they were fake too...START YOUR OWN THREAD :ph34r: Meerkat82, LOOK695, SwissVan and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolipoli Posted April 2, 2014 Share What I don't get is this: IF by some chance, the OP knew what he was buying (fake), why the hell would he come on the HUB and tell everyone about it.He may have thought he was buying a grey product, hence the good price, but who could blame him for doing what most of us would do too.I don't know of a single hubber that wouldn't buy a genuine grey product (CRC much?) Skylark, Meerkat82 and Oxter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogue Posted April 2, 2014 Share START YOUR OWN THREAD :ph34r: Only if they were CYCLING Oakleys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUMEYA Posted April 2, 2014 Share What I don't get is this: IF by some chance, the OP knew what he was buying (fake), why the hell would he come on the HUB and tell everyone about it.He may have thought he was buying a grey product, hence the good price, but who could blame him for doing what most of us would do too.I don't know of a single hubber that wouldn't buy a genuine grey product (CRC much?) And no body in his right mind would pay over 5k for a fake no matter how good the damn paint job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock Posted April 2, 2014 Share im more confused than ever.....some one give us a li-lites package please....thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy hardtail Posted April 2, 2014 Share START YOUR OWN THREAD :ph34r:DONE! DIPSLICK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUMEYA Posted April 2, 2014 Share http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rma/lowres/law-order-justice-recess-judge-court-courtroom-rman14481l.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy hardtail Posted April 2, 2014 Share Time for lunch, gonna get a fake burger from maccie d's MockTurtle, Skylark and Rata Del Spruit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartie Posted April 2, 2014 Share O, And welcome to the Hub Andrew, hope you stick around after all this is sorted and behind you. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted April 2, 2014 Share im more confused than ever.....some one give us a li-lites package please....thanks. Summary: Customer pays R91k for fake, wants money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathrix Posted April 2, 2014 Share I once bought Oakleys at the side of the road for R35. Turns out they were fake too... He didn't buy the Chinarello at the side of the road, Andrew thought he was buying a Pinarello from a reputable shop. Edited April 2, 2014 by nathrix ® ©™ DIPSLICK, GLuvsMtb and YUMEYA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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