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I am the lucky one to get the authentic Pinarello. (Andrew's old Pinarello) When Andrew's new (Fake) bike arrived it was without the bottle cages. We then fitted the old cages to the Fake bike and afterwards bought new cages from Cycle Science for my genuine Pinarello. I suppose i should have those checked to see if they are real or also fake? I thought the water tasted funny:) No bike shop in Boksburg would dare sell us fake bikes. And in Boksburg we get discount to:)

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I am the lucky one to get the authentic Pinarello. (Andrew's old Pinarello) When Andrew's new (Fake) bike arrived it was without the bottle cages. We then fitted the old cages to the Fake bike and afterwards bought new cages from Cycle Science for my genuine Pinarello. I suppose i should have those checked to see if they are real or also fake? I thought the water tasted funny:) No bike shop in Boksburg would dare sell us fake bikes. And in Boksburg we get discount to:)

They charged 91k for a fake bike and didn't even throw in bottle cages... sounds like an awesome shop!
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Tell us about the holes in the OP's comments, we're all ears.

Not sure why the OPs comments are taken as gospel. I am not saying he is lying, but i have been wrong myself before due to misunderstandings, eagerness, forgot, chose to ignore or any other number of reasons.

 

OP mentioned in original post that the LBS indicated way back that he was informed that it was not original. This is supported by the "lawyers" response ( very little backup provided). But i will respect the lawyers position on this not to be tried by the media.

 

The numbers do not add up on the invoice values. LBS says he only paid R37 500. Lets assume R15k (low?) for wheels, 4k for headet and handle bars and saddle column, leaves a frame of R18 k. Dont know what a frame costs here but basic pricing is about $5 000. (R50 k plus) Please correct me if i am wrong as i have never shopped for a bike like this.

 

LBS indicated OP wanted sprayed frame, to my mind i would not want to touch the frame on a R91 k bike. OP not commented on this. Dont know if there were costs involved.

 

No i do not know why the OP invoice says Dogma, or if the frame was painted on request or not, or who said what, but there is obviously a lot of info not available to us as this would take a court case, which seems to be the way this is going.

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Just to reiterate it isn’t just the frame that is fake, the following components on the bike, in addition to the frame, are fake:

 

Wheels – the supplied wheels are an inferior copy that had been branded with DT Swiss stickers.

Saddle – the saddle is far too heavy, and not the right shape, to be a Selle Italia.

Handlebar/Stem – the carbon stem/handlebar combo was not a real Most Talon bar.

The saddle and bar/stem are in fact fake too.

 

The letter from their attorney Vaughan Hattingh Attorneys to me, stated, they sold me a "grey import Pinarello bicycle" (their italics). This after the fact I presented proof that it was fake. I hope for Mr Hattingh's sake he is paid by the hour and not on his success rate.

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Just to reiterate it isn’t just the frame that is fake, the following components on the bike, in addition to the frame, are fake:

 

Wheels – the supplied wheels are an inferior copy that had been branded with DT Swiss stickers.

Saddle – the saddle is far too heavy, and not the right shape, to be a Selle Italia.

Handlebar/Stem – the carbon stem/handlebar combo was not a real Most Talon bar.

The saddle and bar/stem are in fact fake too.

 

The letter from their attorney Vaughan Hattingh Attorneys to me, stated, they sold me a "grey import Pinarello bicycle" (their italics). This after the fact I presented proof that it was fake. I hope for Mr Hattingh's sake he is paid by the hour and not on his success rate.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

HKGK

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3. Among the malicious injurious falsehoods you are persisting in disseminating across social media platforms is your posting on 02 April 2014 of the invoice issued for goods purchased by yourself dated 21 November 2013 while deliberately neglecting to disclose that (as you are abundantly aware) you specifically agreed to and paid only R 37 500-00 for the bicycle (consisting of a frame (at your insistence sprayed a particular shade of black), head set, handle bars, wheels and saddle column) sourced exclusively for you at your insistence and request pursuant to the agreement concluded between us.

 

Too Tall? you are wrong about the value. R37500 was for the frame only.

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Its a *** situation as i have said, and i hope both parties resolve their probs.

 

Thanks for the spray job clarification Andrew.

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Just to reiterate it isn’t just the frame that is fake, the following components on the bike, in addition to the frame, are fake:

 

Wheels – the supplied wheels are an inferior copy that had been branded with DT Swiss stickers.

Saddle – the saddle is far too heavy, and not the right shape, to be a Selle Italia.

Handlebar/Stem – the carbon stem/handlebar combo was not a real Most Talon bar.

The saddle and bar/stem are in fact fake too.

 

The letter from their attorney Vaughan Hattingh Attorneys to me, stated, they sold me a "grey import Pinarello bicycle" (their italics). This after the fact I presented proof that it was fake. I hope for Mr Hattingh's sake he is paid by the hour and not on his success rate.

Mnr, take them to the cleaners.....and take them for your attorney costs as well.

 

Grey <> fake....you will clean them up

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did they have a showroom full of pinarello's?

 

or was it a once off special order for yourself? i.e. are they posing as a fully fledged Pina dealer.....?

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