Tromp Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Is hierdie die tweede " Slag van Bloed Rivier " ? Die Impies donner weer ons boere. Or is it also the " steak " he had in Durban ? Edited July 2, 2014 by Tromp Maniax 1
Wyatt Earp Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Ja but.. he is a pro cyclist, he should know exactly what goes into his body.. at all times. Yes and no, and don't get me wrong in thinking I condone doping.Most of us ,make that all of us are totally unaware what is within everything that passes our lips.
Long Wheel Base Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 then he needs a TUE, rouxtjie can explain rouxtjie your up.......
fandacious Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Yes and no, and don't get me wrong in thinking I condone doping.Most of us ,make that all of us are totally unaware what is within everything that passes our lips. most of us dont race the TDF Gen and hayleyearth 2
E1A104 Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Reading the description posted earlier of what and how the drug is used and works it would be interesting to know what amounts were found Doubt it will make a difference. They bust Contador for picograms of clenbuterol.
Wyatt Earp Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 most of us dont race the TDF I have noticed. Squier 1
rouxtjie Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 rouxtjie your up.......Ek kan nie meer nie korporaal.....regtig waar. bad bad bad....that's all...not even shocked, just disappointed. What I would love to know is who are these rogue agents lacing the pro's bottles with stuff....cause it aint never them. Louisf1 1
carbon29er Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Devil's advocate. I know this quote is going to appear in the media tomorrow, but it's worth posing here now: Why would anyone knowingly take it at the time of champs? Especially when you're defending your title, and are a shoo-in to win, and thus will be tested.Why indeed? Maybe the assumption that there will not be a test, maybe the desperation to get the gong, maybe oh f### who knows why guys take drugs when we all think the risk of getting caught is real? I don't think any of us will ever understand why they do it.
dracs Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Extract from here http://coachsci.sdsu.edu/csa/vol56/rushall5.htm Probenecid is no longer used by dishonest athletes. Probenecid no longer can be used as a weapon for cheating. As soon as it became a substance on the banned drug list (believed to have been in 1987) it ceased to be used by athletes for cheating because of its very ease of detection.Most laboratories test for Probenecid itself, rather than metabolites, for it is the large amount that indicates illicit use. Small amounts, such as therapeutic doses, are of no interest to sport-drug testers because they would be ineffective for cheating purposes. Detected small amounts indicate only therapeutic use. However, even a small trace of Probenecid requires the posting of a positive banned-drug result but in all reality the amount would be useless for cheating. This is a problem that has not been addressed by the IOC Medical Committee. The size of the amount detected and the absence of any other banned substance is the way to determine between cheating and therapeutic purposes.Small traces of this banned drug indicate therapeutic use, large traces indicate cheating. Only foolish individuals would use Probenecid for cheating purposes given the testing capacities of IOC accredited laboratories around the world.The small amount detected in Australian swimmer Richard Upton's urine and the absence of any other banned substance is proof-positive that the drug was taken for therapeutic purposes rather than to distort test results (cheating). However, despite this information since Probenecid remains on the IOC banned substance list, Richard Upton was severely punished by two different Australian sports authorities even though the therapeutic use of just one day's dose by an attending physician was documented and freely admitted.The criteria for evaluating the existence of Probenecid in athletes' urine samples need to be changed to avoid unjust punishments like those that have been recently handed down in Australia. As someone said above, we need to know the quantity found in his system to come to any conclusions, but this no longer seems an obvious drug of choice for a cheat.
patches Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 We can have a "stock" and a "modified" class. Then they can pump themselves full of whatever they want, or ride clean. Long Wheel Base, Bobbo_SA, Jocklaw and 4 others 7
nonky Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 SA's Impey fails drugs test 2014-07-02 11:29share this http://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/2550/b08f2aef89e54d1ead0ca93cfc03973a.jpg Daryl Impey (Gallo) Paris - South African Daryl Impey, who wore the yellow jersey on last year's Tour de France, failed an anti-doping test for the masking agent Probenecid, the Orica-GreenEdge rider said on Wednesday. Probenecid is used to mask the use of doping substances, anabolic drugs in particular. Impey was not included in Orica-GreenEdge's nine-man Tour de France team, which came as a surprise when the Australian outfit made their announcement on Tuesday. "Further to the announcement of the Tour de France team and in the interests of full disclosure, I confirm that on 23 June 2014, I was notified by William Newman, the President of Cycling South Africa, about an adverse analytical finding for Probenecid following an in-competition test at the national time trial championships on 6 February 2014," Impey said in a statement. "I had no knowledge of Probenecid nor have I ever taken the substance knowingly in any manner. I am committed to drug-free sport and fully intend to take all steps necessary to clear myself of any suspicion. "The notification came as a complete shock to me just days before the start of the Tour de France, particularly since anti-doping tests conducted on me on 8 and 9 February 2014 yielded no adverse results. "I immediately flew back to South Africa and was present at the analysis of my B sample on 27 June 2014, the results of which confirmed the initial analysis." The Tour de France starts in Leeds, England on Saturday. Last year, all-rounder Impey became the first African rider to wear the yellow jersey on the Tour de France when he led the overall standings during stages 6 and 7. http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Cycling/South-Africa/SAs-Impey-fails-drugs-test-20140702
Meezo Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 do u thinks it because his a lannister? whaaaaaaaaaaaaat ?
fandacious Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Extract from here http://coachsci.sdsu...56/rushall5.htm Probenecid is no longer used by dishonest athletes. Probenecid no longer can be used as a weapon for cheating. As soon as it became a substance on the banned drug list (believed to have been in 1987) it ceased to be used by athletes for cheating because of its very ease of detection.Most laboratories test for Probenecid itself, rather than metabolites, for it is the large amount that indicates illicit use. Small amounts, such as therapeutic doses, are of no interest to sport-drug testers because they would be ineffective for cheating purposes. Detected small amounts indicate only therapeutic use. However, even a small trace of Probenecid requires the posting of a positive banned-drug result but in all reality the amount would be useless for cheating. This is a problem that has not been addressed by the IOC Medical Committee. The size of the amount detected and the absence of any other banned substance is the way to determine between cheating and therapeutic purposes.Small traces of this banned drug indicate therapeutic use, large traces indicate cheating. Only foolish individuals would use Probenecid for cheating purposes given the testing capacities of IOC accredited laboratories around the world.The small amount detected in Australian swimmer Richard Upton's urine and the absence of any other banned substance is proof-positive that the drug was taken for therapeutic purposes rather than to distort test results (cheating). However, despite this information since Probenecid remains on the IOC banned substance list, Richard Upton was severely punished by two different Australian sports authorities even though the therapeutic use of just one day's dose by an attending physician was documented and freely admitted.The criteria for evaluating the existence of Probenecid in athletes' urine samples need to be changed to avoid unjust punishments like those that have been recently handed down in Australia. As someone said above, we need to know the quantity found in his system to come to any conclusions, but this no longer seems an obvious drug of choice for a cheat. its a masking agent, not a performance enhancer. Its presence indicates the use of anabolics Jocklaw 1
Guest 1979 Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Daryl's statement : Further to the announcement of the Tour de France team and in the interests of full disclosure, I confirm that on 23 June 2014, I was notified by William Newman, the President of Cycling South Africa, about an adverse analytical finding for Probenecid following an in-competition test at the national time trial championships on 6 February 2014. I had no knowledge of Probenecid nor have I ever taken the substance knowingly in any manner. I am committed to drug-free sport and fully intend to take all steps necessary to clear myself of any suspicion.The notification came as a complete shock to me just days before the start of the Tour de France, particularly since anti-doping tests conducted on me on 8 and 9 February 2014 yielded no adverse results.I immediately flew back to South Africa and was present at the analysis of my B sample on 27 June 2014, the results of which confirmed the initial analysis.I am extremely distressed by the finding, as I have always raced clean throughout my career. Every result that I have achieved to date has been as a result of hard work and dedication on my part.I notified my team immediately after being informed by Cycling South Africa of the adverse finding. I would like to thank them, my family and friends for their support during this difficult time. I remain confident that I will be vindicated and proved innocent of any wrongdoing. Said every rider that tested positive ever. That response probably comes as a typed up template inside the box with a blank bit that says YOUR NAME HERE now days. I'm disappointed as anything. He got me motivated to watch the TDF last year. Jocklaw, fanievb, Long Wheel Base and 5 others 8
Tumbleweed Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Why indeed? Maybe the assumption that there will not be a test, maybe the desperation to get the gong, maybe oh f### who knows why guys take drugs when we all think the risk of getting caught is real? I don't think any of us will ever understand why they do it. But aren't winners and those who podium always tested?
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