Patchelicious Posted March 26, 2015 Share Only guy I can think off Owen Hannie?Must say I had a chuckle when he was forced to give his opinion on doping on SuperCycling during the Epic when Andrew and Gerald were not there... Blackbeard and slowashell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted March 26, 2015 Share Unfortunately it is all about $$$$. I still say they must scrap the Vets prize money and podiums (We don't do cycling for a living) and take THAT money and test more. This is the BIG thing I don't really get.......it is Vets racing. Why would you take the risk with your health?Not about money.... Ego! Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted March 26, 2015 Share Not about money.... Ego!The testing I mean......They don't test more because they don't have enough funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barend de Arend Posted March 26, 2015 Share But it makes me wonder just how many vets at the sharp end of the peloton are doping ? Just the one. Honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted March 26, 2015 Share Its an expensive process to try fight a positive test, doing independent testing and getting expert witnesses, and as he is not a Pro who makes his living from this, take the ban and move on. But it makes me wonder just how many vets at the sharp end of the peloton are doping ? Jip.....you are a Vet......why fight a test? Take 2 years and move on. You won't suffer any loss from it......hence why I wonder why they still test Vets because there is no real "punishment" in the end........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMartin Posted March 26, 2015 Share Jip.....you are a Vet......why fight a test? Take 2 years and move on. You won't suffer any loss from it......hence why I wonder why they still test Vets because there is no real "punishment" in the end........If the cheating is driven by ego then being exposed as a cheater is a very real punishment. Danger Dassie, Andrew Steer, Patchelicious and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted March 26, 2015 Share "The analytical report confirmed the presence of the Anabolic Agent, Clenbuterol as well as the Glucocorticosteroid, Prednisone and its metabolite Prednisolone" That is no small amount of serious drugs which got there on purpose. This is the sort of cheating that is deliberate and devious and deserves a life time ban from racing. By this I mean a racing licence. I have no problem with a banned doper returning to UNseeded funriding after a few years. Make them start at 09:55 every year for the Cycle Tour Wow, did not know it was this serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barend de Arend Posted March 26, 2015 Share This is the BIG thing I don't really get.......it is Vets racing. Why would you take the risk with your health? Because I can like are to beat my friends to the line! Either that, or you get your self-confidence from your performance on the bike. Then it might be better to spend that money on a psychiatrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted March 26, 2015 Share If the cheating is driven by ego then being exposed as a cheater is a very real punishment.Nail-head-on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_B Posted March 26, 2015 Share Im still fairly new to the racing scene and I have always wondered do they/can they test the open seeded groups as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted March 26, 2015 Share Im still fairly new to the racing scene and I have always wondered do they/can they test the open seeded groups as well?Last year at the fast one they tested some of the open seeded riders. But otherwise I don't think they bother. Could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalpel Posted March 26, 2015 Share Are there any previously banned dopers from the elites/VA/VB groups now languishing in the fun ride groups after their return?No. They are racing in the licensed groups again! Like Spinnekop says there is no real punishment! After two years you are back and more clued up so they wont catch you again!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaco-fiets Posted March 26, 2015 Share +1000 Wondering about red wine - bought some lovely stuff from Spain recently - the home of the tainted steaks...Don't hold on to those spanish wines for too long. I was not so impressed with their wines travelling down from Madrid to Barcelona through Rioja. Found the better wines to be in the Priorat area outside Barcelona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez-O Posted March 26, 2015 Share Whether Joe is guilty or not... I'll just say generally that although doping for any rider is ridiculous, its even worse when a pathetic pr*ck decides to cheat in a Vets race to stroke his ego! Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALUS Posted March 26, 2015 Share Berto was very lucky/ had good lawayers. Clen is NOT explained easily. Prednisone is very commonly used though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted March 26, 2015 Share When do you think he was told about his test result? I actually don't think Iv seen him race since 947. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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