Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[b-rad]

Anyone here the next Under Armour Elite runner? Thoughts?

 

https://www.modernathlete.co.za/2020/10/are-you-the-next-under-armour-elite-runner/

[Chris_]

Anyone here the next Under Armour Elite runner? Thoughts?

 

https://www.modernathlete.co.za/2020/10/are-you-the-next-under-armour-elite-runner/

Ja those 'qualifier' times are super realistic ????

[Christie]

Anyone here the next Under Armour Elite runner? Thoughts?

 

https://www.modernathlete.co.za/2020/10/are-you-the-next-under-armour-elite-runner/

Great initiative from them. I alao think they target the right profile with their times - slower than pro, but demanding enough that talented runners that are not coached can qualify. I have sent the link to a running buddy who fits the profile ????

[Jewbacca]

Ja those 'qualifier' times are super realistic

Ja but its aimed at 'elite' runners, so they want their kit in the front bunch.

 

There are plenty of guys who fit that bill with no sponsorship.

 

Every year we pay transport and accommodation costs for various groups of runners from the Eastern Cape to come and run 2 Oceans.

 

It is the only support they get apart from some 2nd hand shoes from their club every now and then. They run similar times to this on occasion.

 

I have forwarded this to my contacts too.

 

It would be fantastic to see things like this reach the right people. We have so many talented runners in SA who can't eat properly, train properly or get to races consistently. It is such a shame

[Chris_]

Great initiative from them. I alao think they target the right profile with their times - slower than pro, but demanding enough that talented runners that are not coached can qualify. I have sent the link to a running buddy who fits the profile ????

It's very much elite. That's top 10 ladies from comrades, and top 10 ladies from Cape Town marathon. Half of which were not even south african

 

Esit: looked at an averagely attended joburg race - Johnson crane. no men and no woman ran the UA 21km times, and no woman and 1 guy ran the 42 times.

Edited November 7, 2020 by Chris_

[Christie]

It is fine for sponsorship money to go to elite athletes imo, if that fits the goal of the sponsor - no point spending it on persons that cant podium, then.

There are charity programs too, these would have different goals & criteria.

[b-rad]

It's very much elite. That's top 10 ladies from comrades, and top 10 ladies from Cape Town marathon. Half of which were not even south african

Esit: looked at an averagely attended joburg race - Johnson crane. no men and no woman ran the UA 21km times, and no woman and 1 guy ran the 42 times.

Was thinking the same. The way I see it is there only a handful of runners in SA achieving these times regularly. Racing four marathons a year is a lot. And those that are getting anywhere close to these times are highly likely sponsored on Elite setups. Sure there are a number of marathon runners who are quicker but they also want Comrades athletes.

A comparison on what some of the sponsored setups offer vs what Under Armour are offering would be interesting.

[Stretch]

Stretch have you joined your local club on interval training sessions at all? Maybe you experienced similar to me if you have?

 

I went to a few sessions last year in the Netherlands and found them rather focussed particularly with focus on warming up, stretching, and drills, pre the track session. All of this with a designated trainer as it's requirement for track sessions. These sessions are by no means for top athletes only as all abilities take part.

 

From the little bit I've seen at various events in Europe, running groups place a lot of emphasis on the warm up pre the event. Very interesting to see how focussed some of the groups are. Massive contrast to some events I've done in SA where the regular runners literally arrive at the start as the race is already starting.

 

Of course some running clubs in SA might be similar in terms of track sessions and proper warming up etc but probably not really focussed on the amateur runner?

 

I'm all for the social aspect of running sessions for all abilities, but at the same time the warm up and drills etc are super important for injury prevention. Going from regular session after session of regular single paced running to smashing out intervals is a recipe for disaster. It takes a very different focus and preparation.

To be honest my club is very social. We generally just follow a generic plan. You do need to focus on easy warm up first though.. Especially in the cooler months. The more competitive clubs (the other 2 in our area) are very scientific in their approach so I think you would have a far different approach from them

[Stretch]

I feel like this is a silly question, but...

 

Has anyone else noticed or heard of heart rate being different between wrist measured, and chest strap?

 

I used my chest strap today and was pretty sure my rate was 7 or 8 bpm less for the speed and perceived effort compared to previous runs.

I switched from a chest strap to the polar optic arm strap. My chest strap used to read about 7 or 8 bpm higher than the optic arm strap and it used to really battle to get a consistent reading early on in the run in the winter months. I've really been impressed with the stability and consistency of the optic arm strap

[Chris_]

I switched from a chest strap to the polar optic arm strap. My chest strap used to read about 7 or 8 bpm higher than the optic arm strap and it used to really battle to get a consistent reading early on in the run in the winter months. I've really been impressed with the stability and consistency of the optic arm strap

I've seen these arm things on Instagram pics , that's interesting. May be worth a go if I come across one, chest straps have always felt awkward to me.

[Chris_]

Was thinking the same. The way I see it is there only a handful of runners in SA achieving these times regularly. Racing four marathons a year is a lot. And those that are getting anywhere close to these times are highly likely sponsored on Elite setups. Sure there are a number of marathon runners who are quicker but they also want Comrades athletes.

A comparison on what some of the sponsored setups offer vs what Under Armour are offering would be interesting.

I'd also love to know what the nedbank, Murray's, etc people get.

 

To be honest when I first opened the link I thought this was going to be an influencer type sponsorship, and that's just my bad assumption on the brand I suppose. And why I said the times were very ambitious.

 

Good for them though. We have enough talent in this country, maybe an extra dangling carrot will be a small catalyst.

[SwissVan]

Normally i don't run with my phone and never take running pics, but this weekend I'm on standby so have to carry it... Thought I'd take the opportunity to take some autumn running pics

 

 

In summer you cant stop and take pictures here....the local nudist beach

Very popular and you see all sorts hanging out there.... 

 

 

 

 

 

[Chris_]

Whenever I see a crazy sunrise or anything really thats cool on the road, I wish I had a baby camera built into my watch.

[The Ghost]

I feel like this is a silly question, but...

 

Has anyone else noticed or heard of heart rate being different between wrist measured, and chest strap?

 

I used my chest strap today and was pretty sure my rate was 7 or 8 bpm less for the speed and perceived effort compared to previous runs.

The wife and I both use a strap because even the tightness of your watch strap can influence the watches HR reading.

Also remember that as you warm up you start to swell too so the fit gets tighter.

[Chris_]

The wife and I both use a strap because even the tightness of your watch strap can influence the watches HR reading.

Also remember that as you warm up you start to swell too so the fit gets tighter.

The reading I've done is quite varied. Some seem have the opposite to what I'm personally experiencing . I'll stick with the chest strap I reckon for as much as possible . If for nothing else the wrist HR lags are very irritating.

[SwissVan]

I feel like this is a silly question, but...

 

Has anyone else noticed or heard of heart rate being different between wrist measured, and chest strap? 

 

I used my chest strap today and was pretty sure my rate was 7 or 8 bpm less for the speed and perceived effort compared to previous runs.

 

Not silly at all

When i started using wrist measuring for HR i also noticed a difference, in particular the lag.

 

I confirmed it by wearing 2 watches at the same time, one for chest strap and 1 for wrist on a few occasions. Overall the HR readings were close enough to not worry about the differences...except the lag. However as HR always tends to lag effort for the first few minutes I typically focus on the indicated running speed to gauge effort in the first few minutes...until my HR stabilizes.

 

However i prefer the wrist method just because its more comfortable than a chest strap, even if I have to wear the watch as tight as possible (the only way i found to get a consistent HR measurement).