Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Hacc]

Looking for a running program for a marathon to help the wife. Can anybody recommend running coaches?

To be honest I have never used a training programme, so I can't comment. I do however know that some of my club mates use Coach Parry's training programme:

 

https://coachparry.com/42km-training-program/

 

Good Luck with the training!

[Barry Stuart]

Did you have a look at the new Salomon Sense Ride? Price wise it should be similar, but personally I think it is a much better shoe than the Cascadia.

I hadn't considered Salomon to be honest, always assumed they were targeted at elite type runners but have just looked up that shoe and it sounds really good. Prefect drop for me as well. I'll go take a look at it, thanks.

[Mudsimus]

I hadn't considered Salomon to be honest, always assumed they were targeted at elite type runners but have just looked up that shoe and it sounds really good. Prefect drop for me as well. I'll go take a look at it, thanks.

Just get a pair on your feet, the fit alone will convince you.

[Ed-Zulu]

Looking for a running program for a marathon to help the wife. Can anybody recommend running coaches?

I can't recommend a running coach, but runnersworld.co.za has marathon training programs which are easy to follow, you can download according to time left to your marathon and or fitness level. Very helpful stuff there.

 

Your local running club is also probably a good place to join for the knowledge and assistance from experienced runners

[Paddaman]

Looking for a running program for a marathon to help the wife. Can anybody recommend running coaches?

Tim Noakes has a really good running programme in Lore of Running.  Starts with a 10km training programme that expands to a 42km programme.  Includes lots of walking initially and is designed to prevent injuries.

If that is not up her alley, try the Norrie Williamson book "Everyman's guide to distance running", there are more complex programmes designed to help achieve set times, which include interval sessions, hill sessions ext.

Both Tim and Norrie are South African Guru's on long distance running from when a marathon was a seen as a normal distance to run.  (1980's)

[Barry Stuart]

Both Tim and Norrie are South African Guru's on long distance running from when a marathon was a seen as a normal distance to run.  (1980's)

 

It's one of the things I love about the South African running scene, based on what I've read and heard from foreign runners. One guy I spoke to pointed out that back home people will regularly put 13.1 and 26.2 stickers on their cars and (justifiably) earn the revered title of "marathon runner" once they've completed the distance. He laughed that in South Africa if you say you've run a marathon, people immediately respond, with all sincerity, "Nice, did you qualify for Comrades then?"

[Barry Stuart]

Just get a pair on your feet, the fit alone will convince you.

 

And what kind of longevity have you had with your Salomons? Looking for a shoe that I know I'll get 800km out of at least.

[EmJayZA]

Looking for a running program for a marathon to help the wife. Can anybody recommend running coaches?

 

I use MPG for my triathlon training. I have a coach, and my program is generated weekly based on my performance stats. My program is more personalized based on my own distance and speed. My coach monitors my training sessions, provides feedback, and answers any questions I may have. MPG provides a free 30 day trial period. If your wife is looking for something more personalized and interactive, I would consider this. 

[Ferret69]

I use MPG for my triathlon training. I have a coach, and my program is generated weekly based on my performance stats. My program is more personalized based on my own distance and speed. My coach monitors my training sessions, provides feedback, and answers any questions I may have. MPG provides a free 30 day trial period. If your wife is looking for something more personalized and interactive, I would consider this. 

MPG is great for Triathlon Training, and I would even say training up to about 21kms.

 

Only problem with it is that it is so personalized its impossible to have training partners.. Every single session is so set to your HR and zones that there is never just "go for a run". 

 

I had a mate who followed it for Comrades last year and it got very lonely... When we were at 30-35km Club runs with a nice group he was slogging it out there alone to hit the right marks and zones.... and unfortunately his race didn't go to plan either..

 

I'm not at all dissing MPG at all as I think the platform and coaches are great but I'm not sure its right for Ultras.. Just my 2c

[EmJayZA]

MPG is great for Triathlon Training, and I would even say training up to about 21kms.

 

Only problem with it is that it is so personalized its impossible to have training partners.. Every single session is so set to your HR and zones that there is never just "go for a run". 

 

I had a mate who followed it for Comrades last year and it got very lonely... When we were at 30-35km Club runs with a nice group he was slogging it out there alone to hit the right marks and zones.... and unfortunately his race didn't go to plan either..

 

I'm not at all dissing MPG at all as I think the platform and coaches are great but I'm not sure its right for Ultras.. Just my 2c

 

Ah, yes. I have never thought about it from this perspective. I think out of all my runs in a given week, I have two runs that I can do socially: track and aerobic runs. For someone new to running, the pacing, HR zones and distance increases based on distance covered are very useful. I find that a lot of other programs are lacking in this area. So I guess it all comes down to what exactly the person's goals are and their experience in the sport. 

Edited August 1, 2017 by EmJayZA

[Mudsimus]

And what kind of longevity have you had with your Salomons? Looking for a shoe that I know I'll get 800km out of at least.

It depends how and where you run. Tar will trash any trail shoe in no time. I have a pair of Sense Ultras with about 700km, the uppers are still perfect, and looking at the soles Im sure I'll get another 400 easy. On a pair of S Lab Wings I did about 200km so far, they still look brand new, no wear on the sole. And it's basically the same sole used on the Sense Ride.

[shaper]

If you on Strava (as most of us are), they have training plans for all distances https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918647-Training-Plans-for-Runners-How-to-FAQs

[Andrew Steer]

Eye balling these... the AdiBoost road shoes are high on my list for replacing Nimbus, so these could be a great introduction to the range. And at R1200 after discount they aren't a huge risk.

 

http://www.duesouth.co.za/pdp/adidas-men-s-adistar-raven-boost-trail-shoe/_/A-194614AAAI0

 

I see there is a Speedcross promo too - R1999, but I've not heard great things about them

[Andrew Steer]

Eye balling these... the AdiBoost road shoes are high on my list for replacing Nimbus, so these could be a great introduction to the range. And at R1200 after discount they aren't a huge risk.

 

http://www.duesouth.co.za/pdp/adidas-men-s-adistar-raven-boost-trail-shoe/_/A-194614AAAI0

 

I see there is a Speedcross promo too - R1999, but I've not heard great things about them

Reviews seem solid too

 

https://runrepeat.com/adidas-adistar-raven-boost#user_reviews

[Ed-Zulu]

Reviews seem solid too

 

https://runrepeat.com/adidas-adistar-raven-boost#user_reviews

Andrew, please hear me out about these shoes;

 

I bought the exact same pair two weeks ago, read the reviews, they list these shoes as tight amd staying so.

 

It was my experience with them that they were incredibly uncomfortable, being very tight across the forefoot. After 75km's in them I gave up and bought the Kanadia's.

 

What I did like about them were; super stable, super grippy and very airy. I could feel the cold air rush through the shoe as I ran. However, if I was you, go to a shop and pre-fit them first, they seem slightly cramped.

 

As a reference, I also bought a pair of Boost 9's, which fitted like a glove no issues. These are trail shoes, you should trail fit a pair first

[CobusV]

Eye balling these... the AdiBoost road shoes are high on my list for replacing Nimbus, so these could be a great introduction to the range. And at R1200 after discount they aren't a huge risk.

 

http://www.duesouth.co.za/pdp/adidas-men-s-adistar-raven-boost-trail-shoe/_/A-194614AAAI0

 

I see there is a Speedcross promo too - R1999, but I've not heard great things about them

Don't know if you are a size 10 or 12, but the Repsonse Trail Boost aren't bad either.

http://www.duesouth.co.za/pdp/adidas-men-s-response-tr-boost-trail-shoe/_/A-194614AAAI1

 

Here is a review from Rory Scheffer:

http://beardedbrotherstrailrunning.com/adidas-response-trail-boost-review/

 

Also Salomon is part of Adidas, so can expect some design influance on the adidas shoes.