Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Chris_]

 Camille winning of course.

 

[Pulse]

I am really not an expert on this, but I fail to see where the "energy" comes from with tailwind. I can wrap my head around where it comes from when eating potatoes or food, but looking at this nutritional info, compared to Hammer Endurolytes fizz and capsules that we use for electrolytes replacements, it shows that I don't understand this stuff as I fail to see where it comes in when I compare them.

 

In fact Hammer fizz beats tailwind in most of the ingredients, but yet it has 10 calories and tailwind 100 per serving?

 

https://tailwindnutrition.co.za/product/tailwind-caffeinated-endurance-fuel-large-50-serving/

http://www.hammernutrition.co.za/shop/nutrition-during/endurolytes-fizz

http://www.hammernutrition.co.za/shop/nutrition-during/endurolytes-extreme

Calories (predominantly) comes from macro-nutrients (fat, protein, carbohydrates).

 

With these, the calories are typically from Carbs:

Hammer fizz: >1g carbs

Tailwind: 25g carbs

 

Those are the calories (energy...)

[Allrounder]

Whaaaaat? What Adidas shoes are you in that they feel wide? I find Adidas tend to run very narrow and about half a size smaller than my usual shoe. Still, the Bostons and Adios are great short distance shoes (though I did see some guys running the Adios at Comrades).

 

I have no idee which one it is, but it is a trail running shoe that I bought about a year ago on a clearance sale. 

 

Will check and let you know! 

[Allrounder]

Went for a run before work this morning. only 2km again, but I can not believe it is the same 2 kms as Sunday. I had to walk sections, breath out of control, sore legs and I am still seeing stars. 

 

AVG pace of 6:38. 

[dave303e]

Went for a run before work this morning. only 2km again, but I can not believe it is the same 2 kms as Sunday. I had to walk sections, breath out of control, sore legs and I am still seeing stars. 

 

AVG pace of 6:38. 

 

It never gets any easier, you just go faster...

[Jackes]

Meanwhile Gerda is running 3.23/km tempo runs. Comrades is going to be an epic battle between her, Camille and Ann. Camille winning of course.

 

That is if she can make it to the starting line!  

[Jackes]

https://www.runnersworld.co.za/gear/hit-the-trails-with-these-4-shoes-youll-love/?mc_cid=240cae9c10&mc_eid=223ee348cb

 

Here you go...

[Chris_]

https://www.runnersworld.co.za/gear/hit-the-trails-with-these-4-shoes-youll-love/?mc_cid=240cae9c10&mc_eid=223ee348cb

 

Here you go...

 

I made the list!

 

+1 for Altra Lone Peaks, best thing I've ever done for my toes (and Mortons neuroma), they're awesome.

[Hacc]

There are organisations that take second hand shots and donate them to communities. Ask at your local running shop....or even at your local park run.

 

I used to stop running in shoes once I got to 1000km.. But my last Brookes and ASICS are now on 1500. I only use them for short runs (less than 12km) and then use a new pair for longer runs. The ASICS are now done.. But that's a fair bit of extra mileage I got out of them. I'm still rotating 4 pairs but the one is gonna go to the bin now (there's no donation option here)

We have lots of underprivileged runners in our club. I donate my shoes to one runner that wears the same size. He manages to run another 1000km in my retired Asics Nimbus. I guess we have lots to be thankful for being able to afford new running shoes when they go on special or when we can feel it is time for a new pair.

 

If you have running shoes, drop them off at your club or if you don't belong to a club DM me if you are in Gauteng, I am sure someone at our club will appreciate it.

[Fruity]

Got my first road run for the year coming up soon. It's a 10km, and I've done no training for it, although, I did a 13km trail run in November last year and I managed it okay - maybe going to grid class at gym helped with that.

[Hacc]

I see Gerda came 4th in her first triathlon... I am sure if her swim was stronger she would have won. 

[Chris_]

I see Gerda came 4th in her first triathlon... I am sure if her swim was stronger she would have won. 

 

Yolande is also getting into tri's now. I think she only needs one more gold to make 10, then if she shifts focus she could be dangerous.

[Frosty]

Yeah, first half is fast, then from about 12kms you head up, with it kicking more noticeably around the 14km mark, peaking at 18km odd - last 2-3km is largely fast downhill where the PTS from last years Comrades down run kicks in...

 

This is all from vague memory, but should give you the gist. Enjoy Frosty, this year I've promised myself I will take is very slow and sensibly  ​ 

Thanks.

 

I also made promises for this year... semi-structured training to keep fit, and be able to complete certain events with ease. And to just enjoy the runs/rides. If I get any PBs, bonus - just no injuries from over-doing it.

Okay, so the first 12km wasn't the easiest either... fitness might play some part in that, but I almost felt like I was running a different route to the usual out there. Actually had quite a cool run though, took it nice and sensible and my legs are already pretty much fine this morning...

Lots of work to do, but feel like I'm slowly learning a little more about this running art each year and how is best for me to approach things... just need to put things into practice and push on

 

Next up Johnsons Crane, just the half for me (old me would definitely have been kakking off in the Marathon, but I've hopefully purged myself of that fool)

I had a horrible day on Sunday... a 2:15 finish (happy with the time, but not how I felt on the run). I walked at the bump under the R24, again between Bedford Centre and the finish - lots of times. I have never felt so bad on a run, since I started in December 2017. It was bound to happen, and I know I shouldn't feel bad, but I do. 

1. Man alive, it was figgen hot out there - and humid. I don't perform well in hot conditions, cycling included;
2. The course was harder than I anticipated, which is a good thing - I now know I need to adapt my training accordingly;
3. I tried following the 2 hour bus, but they were cruising along a lot faster than I was comfortable with. I had the route downloaded on my Garmin, and was showing a 2:00:24 - 2:00:32 finish for the first 11Km, which I was happy with. It all went a bit pear-shaped the minute I started walking, but not as bad as I thought it would be;
4. Quads and glutes were hurting on all the uphills and downhills, but I'm okay today (Tuesday).

Next up, running-related, is probably the Edenvale 10Km in March - it was my first ever road race, and I enjoyed it last year. Then probably the 15Km Colgate in May (another enjoyable run with this thread's OP).

[Andrew Steer]

I had a horrible day on Sunday... a 2:15 finish (happy with the time, but not how I felt on the run). I walked at the bump under the R24, again between Bedford Centre and the finish - lots of times. I have never felt so bad on a run, since I started in December 2017. It was bound to happen, and I know I shouldn't feel bad, but I do. 

1. Man alive, it was figgen hot out there - and humid. I don't perform well in hot conditions, cycling included;
2. The course was harder than I anticipated, which is a good thing - I now know I need to adapt my training accordingly;
3. I tried following the 2 hour bus, but they were cruising along a lot faster than I was comfortable with. I had the route downloaded on my Garmin, and was showing a 2:00:24 - 2:00:32 finish for the first 11Km, which I was happy with. It all went a bit pear-shaped the minute I started walking, but not as bad as I thought it would be;
4. Quads and glutes were hurting on all the uphills and downhills, but I'm okay today (Tuesday).

Next up, running-related, is probably the Edenvale 10Km in March - it was my first ever road race, and I enjoyed it last year. Then probably the 15Km Colgate in May (another enjoyable run with this thread's OP).

Bad days happen... especially when you're still getting into things

 

It was super hot, I seriously regretted wearing two tops (vest and t) - getting your hydration spot on becomes a bit of an art form in this cases.

 

Walking is not the end of the world and a handy tool down the line for the longer stuff... it takes some getting used to though, the stop start nature of run walk is not for everyone. I used to avoid walking like the plague as I struggled to restart, but now days I can happily walk 50 meters, recover pretty nicely and get going again no problem.

 

2:15 means we must pretty much of finished together - my official time was 2:15, running time 2:12 (took me a little time to get over the start mat)

 

Well done, might well join you and Scott and Colgate

 

[Hacc]

I had a horrible day on Sunday... a 2:15 finish (happy with the time, but not how I felt on the run). I walked at the bump under the R24, again between Bedford Centre and the finish - lots of times. I have never felt so bad on a run, since I started in December 2017. It was bound to happen, and I know I shouldn't feel bad, but I do. 

1. Man alive, it was figgen hot out there - and humid. I don't perform well in hot conditions, cycling included;
2. The course was harder than I anticipated, which is a good thing - I now know I need to adapt my training accordingly;
3. I tried following the 2 hour bus, but they were cruising along a lot faster than I was comfortable with. I had the route downloaded on my Garmin, and was showing a 2:00:24 - 2:00:32 finish for the first 11Km, which I was happy with. It all went a bit pear-shaped the minute I started walking, but not as bad as I thought it would be;
4. Quads and glutes were hurting on all the uphills and downhills, but I'm okay today (Tuesday).

Next up, running-related, is probably the Edenvale 10Km in March - it was my first ever road race, and I enjoyed it last year. Then probably the 15Km Colgate in May (another enjoyable run with this thread's OP).

Congrats on finishing your first 21km! 2:15 is not bad at all, especially for the weather conditions and the Dischem Route. The second half is very tough.

 

I hate walking... The reason is that I get exponentially slower when I start walking. Like Andrew says, some people struggle to get going again. I am one of them. It is even worse when it is hot. I try to stick to a water point 30-second walking regime... but that easily goes out the window when it is hot and there are climbs.

 

You should be proud of yourself, you finished a half marathon. Welcome to the club!

 

We all have bad days, embrace them. Learn from your experience. You now know how to pace yourself better on your second 21. You will also be better prepared in terms of nutrition and hydration.

Another lesson is to stick to your plan, do not try and change the plan on the day by joining a bus (unless you feel comfortable with the bus pace). I know it is difficult in the first half when the route is flat and your legs are still fresh. I made the same mistake a couple of years ago at Tough One... I joined the sub 3 bus and the bus driver was very inexperienced (I only realized this when I passed him a couple of kilometers from the finish, he was walking to the finish with his bus sign in his hand without the rest of the bus)

 

I hope you are not discouraged by this. Enter another 21...

[Hacc]

Has anyone done Surrender Hill marathon to qualify? Any comments? The profile looks brutal.

 

I haven't done the marathon before and this year most of my club mates are doing it. I am feeling the peer pressure now...