Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Odinson]

To the experienced marathoners, at which point during a race is it typical to hit the wall? I know this differs wildly and is dependent on a whole host of factors, but in your experience, when has that happened to you? Somewhere in the mid- to deep 30's? 

[Jewbacca]

To the experienced marathoners, at which point during a race is it typical to hit the wall? I know this differs wildly and is dependent on a whole host of factors, but in your experience, when has that happened to you? Somewhere in the mid- to deep 30's? 

I would say between 27 and 31.... 

[Chris_]

I'd say 28 - 32

 

Edit: Ha that wasn't meant to 1 up...

Edited July 29, 2019 by CBlake

[Hacc]

To the experienced marathoners, at which point during a race is it typical to hit the wall? I know this differs wildly and is dependent on a whole host of factors, but in your experience, when has that happened to you? Somewhere in the mid- to deep 30's? 

Mine is 28 km. Once I get to single digits (32 km) I somehow see some light at the end of the tunnel.

[Jewbacca]

I'd say 28 - 32

 

Edit: Ha that wasn't meant to 1 up...

hahahaha I enjoyed that!

 

Same ball park... It's basically the middle kms that are far enough in but not close enough to the finish.

 

Once you get to 32 it's only 10km to go, so the mental wall tends to fall away and be replaced with renewed vigour as you are officially 'counting down' from a very manageable 10km out.

[Andrew Steer]

Mine is 28 km. Once I get to single digits (32 km) I somehow see some light at the end of the tunnel.

I could almost set my watch by something going a little pear shaped at 28kms at one stage... was definitely my bogey number. 

A lot will have to do on how well prepped you are, but for a lot of us we jump from halfs to full marathons without much of a transition between, so the body starts throwing lots of red flags at you when it realizes you're busting out of your comfort zone.

 

It's one of the reasons I love running 32km races... it's just such a nice distance for me.

Far, but without the drama the last 10km's of a marathon inevitably throws at you

[soslow]

Wait until the crazy season starts you will need at least 80km to have chance for top 10

Hi there.

What do I look for on strava if I want to join the bikehub strava runners challenge

[Andrew Steer]

Hi there.

What do I look for on strava if I want to join the bikehub strava runners challenge

https://www.strava.com/clubs/bikehubsa

[Odinson]

hahahaha I enjoyed that!

 

Same ball park... It's basically the middle kms that are far enough in but not close enough to the finish.

 

Once you get to 32 it's only 10km to go, so the mental wall tends to fall away and be replaced with renewed vigour as you are officially 'counting down' from a very manageable 10km out.

 

Kind of what I thought. That point where you're past the 'easy' half and starting to fatigue, but don't yet have the mental pull of the 10km countdown you can rely on. 

[Jewbacca]

Kind of what I thought. That point where you're past the 'easy' half and starting to fatigue, but don't yet have the mental pull of the 10km countdown you can rely on. 

Couple that with the route, how much sleep you had, whether you had a decent poop, hydration levels etc and a combination of that plus anything can trigger the start of encroaching doom.

 

These days I usually only hit the wall if I start out to fast or feel so good I forget to drink early enough. But mostly starting out too fast and being under prepared.

 

Anxiety is also a killer, which I find is negated if you're prepared properly, but sometimes life throws you curve balls which can have very real effects on your body when you 'go deep'.

[gifs]

I recently came across this study about "hitting the wall" that is quite interesting:

https://www.outsideonline.com/2399877/critical-power-study

[Stretch]

To the experienced marathoners, at which point during a race is it typical to hit the wall? I know this differs wildly and is dependent on a whole host of factors, but in your experience, when has that happened to you? Somewhere in the mid- to deep 30's?

Never... You should pace yourself to such precision that you are at your limit in the final 5km but never quite hit the wall. If you've hit the wall then you've gone out too hard

[shaper]

For me it use to be around the 35km mark, but rarely hit the wall these days as am better at pacing with regard to my goal time for the marathon.  Hitting the wall is usually a combination of going too hard to early and not sticking with your nutrition plan.

[Odinson]

Never... You should pace yourself to such precision that you are at your limit in the final 5km but never quite hit the wall. If you've hit the wall then you've gone out too hard

 

Agreed. 

[Chris_]

I recently came across this study about "hitting the wall" that is quite interesting:

https://www.outsideonline.com/2399877/critical-power-study

 

So, you get tired when you get tired.. 

[Andrew Steer]

Never... You should pace yourself to such precision that you are at your limit in the final 5km but never quite hit the wall. If you've hit the wall then you've gone out too hard

Like this   

 

 

Longest 2.5km's of my life...