New Zealand - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

[nolipoli]

So 2 months in and I have just accepted a new position at my company - back into design and a 25% increase! This is the dream I was hoping for.

[MTBeer]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/12/takeaway-shop-owner-ignores-armed-robber-new-zealand-video

[Eldron]

Tauranga....

 

You beauty.

 

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Do not make me fly half way around the world to issue some percussion language correction actions.

 

You beauty.

 

You beauty?

 

We have lost Wayne to the dark side....

[rad006]

So 2 months in and I have just accepted a new position at my company - back into design and a 25% increase! This is the dream I was hoping for.

 

Congrats Nolipoli I hope I get my dream as well...

[rad006]

It seems like the ritual at work has become trails ride after work on a Wednesdays and beers after work on Fridays....which is a good and a bad to NZ....flip ONE beer is like $9.50

 

So her is an interesting analogy, lets say a beer costs $10 = R120 a beer. Based on a good SA salary of 30k/month after tax leaves you with say 24k = 200 beers. What would a good NZ salary after tax get you in beers? The same or more?

[Wayne Potgieter]

Do not make me fly half way around the world to issue some percussion language correction actions.

 

You beauty.

 

You beauty?

 

We have lost Wayne to the dark side....

Sow ief eye maik lotts off grammartical erors u wil comb veset?

 

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[Eldron]

Sow ief eye maik lotts off grammartical erors u wil comb veset?

 

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Can't. Stop. Right. Eye. From. Twitching.

[MTBeer]

So her is an interesting analogy, lets say a beer costs $10 = R120 a beer. Based on a good SA salary of 30k/month after tax leaves you with say 24k = 200 beers. What would a good NZ salary after tax get you in beers? The same or more?

that is the only way to compare cost of living (not necessarily beer though). Monthly expenses as a percentage of after tax income.

[hayleyearth]

So her is an interesting analogy, lets say a beer costs $10 = R120 a beer. Based on a good SA salary of 30k/month after tax leaves you with say 24k = 200 beers. What would a good NZ salary after tax get you in beers? The same or more?

I'm the wrong person to ask. I was maybe a little over paid in SA cause if I put my CTC of SA over directly in NZ $ then I'm not earning much more now even though my eexpenses has to be multiplied by 10+ (this might not make sense to many). I am working for a good company here too (with plenty of 'extras', but unfortunately I came from one that gave even more), so moving here for me was not a financial move at all, i.o.w earning $ doesn't put me in a better spot at all.

 

I have gained in many other ways though, people/relationships in my life now is a big gain which I lacked BIG time back in SA. And of course to ride where ever when ever by myself.

[rad006]

I'm the wrong person to ask. I was maybe a little over paid in SA cause if I put my CTC of SA over directly in NZ $ then I'm not earning much more now even though my eexpenses has to be multiplied by 10+ (this might not make sense to many). I am working for a good company here too (with plenty of 'extras', but unfortunately I came from one that gave even more), so moving here for me was not a financial move at all, i.o.w earning $ doesn't put me in a better spot at all.

 

I have gained in many other ways though, people/relationships in my life now is a big gain which I lacked BIG time back in SA. And of course to ride where ever when ever by myself.

 

I hear you but its an interesting comparison. Ie I go with a Kiwi for lunch, we have some beers. I cannot compare prices back to home as then I'll have a heart attack. Question is does he feel the pinch in his wallet as well 3 beers down?

[hayleyearth]

I hear you but its an interesting comparison. Ie I go with a Kiwi for lunch, we have some beers. I cannot compare prices back to home as then I'll have a heart attack. Question is does he feel the pinch in his wallet as well 3 beers down?

 

I was taken for dinner the other night. The bill was $79 (without tip), just 2 of us. The oke insisted on paying as it seemed like it was a normal thing for him to do. I guess R800 for a dinner for 2 here is normal. Back home for me that was a lot. (I would also not have let anyone back home pay that for me I guess). 

 

The way I see these people socialise I think they must either have lots of debt (house, car, furniture, boat, etc etc) and /or have no savings and living their whole salary out on socializing. It's BIG here to do things "with mates". Dinners, drinks and coffees. I'm still to have a week here that I'm not invited to such with someone new (never mind my return visits). 

[nolipoli]

There is a massive difference in beer price between supermarkets and bars. You can pick up a great beer for around $2 a beer at a supermarket, but you might pay 5 times that when out.

 

I read somewhere that the average salary in Auckland is $72000pa, which seems quite high, but let's go with that for argument sake. That nets you about $4690 per month which means 469 beers. This compares with maybe 1200 beers in SA at R20 a beer and R24k net per month

 

Just bear in mind that that life is pretty pricey.

[the nerd]

I'm the wrong person to ask. I was maybe a little over paid in SA cause if I put my CTC of SA over directly in NZ $ then I'm not earning much more now even though my eexpenses has to be multiplied by 10+ (this might not make sense to many). I am working for a good company here too (with plenty of 'extras', but unfortunately I came from one that gave even more), so moving here for me was not a financial move at all, i.o.w earning $ doesn't put me in a better spot at all.

 

I have gained in many other ways though, people/relationships in my life now is a big gain which I lacked BIG time back in SA. And of course to ride where ever when ever by myself.

 

 

I hear you but its an interesting comparison. Ie I go with a Kiwi for lunch, we have some beers. I cannot compare prices back to home as then I'll have a heart attack. Question is does he feel the pinch in his wallet as well 3 beers down?

 

 

I was taken for dinner the other night. The bill was $79 (without tip), just 2 of us. The oke insisted on paying as it seemed like it was a normal thing for him to do. I guess R800 for a dinner for 2 here is normal. Back home for me that was a lot. (I would also not have let anyone back home pay that for me I guess). 

 

The way I see these people socialise I think they must either have lots of debt (house, car, furniture, boat, etc etc) and /or have no savings and living their whole salary out on socializing. It's BIG here to do things "with mates". Dinners, drinks and coffees. I'm still to have a week here that I'm not invited to such with someone new (never mind my return visits). 

 

All the above means nothing.... These two lines are worth more than all of it... 

 

I have gained in many other ways though, people/relationships in my life now is a big gain which I lacked BIG time back in SA. And of course to ride where ever when ever by myself.

[niterider]

Here's a good summary of median incomes for various occupations - http://www.careers.govt.nz/jobs-database/whats-happening-in-the-job-market/who-earns-what/

 

I don't know how anyone can survive in Auckland on those lower salaries.

[rouxtjie]

interesting.... am I right in saying that 125k will be a ok salary in nz terms?

[hayleyearth]

interesting.... am I right in saying that 125k will be a ok salary in nz terms?

 

It seems you are getting to the point I was trying to make, in SA it is 'normal' for a engineering manager to get over R900k a year. Most I think it's over R1m now (in jhb especially). If you put it in NZ$ that's say $100k, which seems like the equivalent to what people get here..... Which in everyones mind now should be lights going off.... Cause things here like housing is I think 10 times more than back home and eating out about just over double etc etc.  So for most it will not make financial sense to move here. (well that's my view)