Dopers suck

[fanievb]

On 7/23/2023 at 6:15 PM, bolt67 said:

https://drugfreesport.org.za/cases/?athlete_sport=cycling

doping amongst SA vets is high - 4 recent positive cases 

 

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33 minutes ago, Scalpel said:

I hear a local Vet/Master XCO rider was caught recently? Does anyone have details. Just the rumour mill but where there is smoke!

 

[Scalpel]

Thanks Fanie. So who was the last 4? The ones above Burger?

[Danger Dassie]

Saw same, screen grab on Benky's Instagram stories. Nothing communicated by CSA/CGC. So, vok nees ... 

[Red Bird]

On 7/28/2023 at 10:10 AM, Scalpel said:

I hear a local Vet/Master XCO rider was caught recently? Does anyone have details. Just the rumour mill but where there is smoke!

Apparently the banned substance is in a recovery shake.

Edited July 29, 2023 by Red Bird

[Danger Dassie]

12 minutes ago, Red Bird said:

Apparently the banned substance is in the 32Gi recovery shake.

For all of them? Which substance?

Edited July 28, 2023 by Danger Dassie

[Red Bird]

Just now, Danger Dassie said:

For all of them? Come on.

Just for one of them. He claimed that he didn’t know it was in it.

[Danger Dassie]

@Red Bird What substance? There’s a whole bunch listed on the SAIDS link. 

Edited July 28, 2023 by Danger Dassie

[Red Bird]

9 hours ago, Danger Dassie said:

@Red Bird What substance? There’s a whole bunch listed on the SAIDS link. 

Not sure. I find it hard to believe all those substances came from the shake too. But, these powders rarely get tested, and not all substances are listed on the label, so, even well-known brands end up with these banned substances.

[BikeisLife]

1 hour ago, Red Bird said:

Not sure. I find it hard to believe all those substances came from the shake too. But, these powders rarely get tested, and not all substances are listed on the label, so, even well-known brands end up with these banned substances.

That is every single doping offender’s favourite line. “It was in my protein shake” “it was in my food”. Rubbish. 
 

If it was in 32GI’s shakes, there would be way more cases across all sports. Do you really think that a brand is going to put banned substances for athletes in an atheletes recovery shake and ruin their reputation? I highly doubt it. 
 

These offenders 99% know exactly what they are doing. 

[PhilipV]

7 minutes ago, BikeisLife said:

Do you really think that a brand is going to put banned substances for athletes in an atheletes recovery shake and ruin their reputation? I highly doubt it. 
 

 

Yes. I refuse to use anything made by USN for  this reason. 

[Red Bird]

1 hour ago, BikeisLife said:

That is every single doping offender’s favourite line. “It was in my protein shake” “it was in my food”. Rubbish. 
 

If it was in 32GI’s shakes, there would be way more cases across all sports. Do you really think that a brand is going to put banned substances for athletes in an atheletes recovery shake and ruin their reputation? I highly doubt it. 
 

These offenders 99% know exactly what they are doing. 

 

1 hour ago, PhilipV said:

Yes. I refuse to use anything made by USN for  this reason. 

Yes, USN even puts it on their website.

As from 1 January 2017 Oxilofrine (methylsynephrine), as contained in Advantra Z® and other Citrus Aurantium versions, is on the WADA prohibited substance list (sports banned substances). Please refrain from using products containing Advantra Z® if you are a professional athlete who gets tested by the Anti-doping Agency.

Supplements Can Present a Risk With Respect to Wada Regulated Athletes in Two Ways

1. As the list of prohibited substances changes on a yearly basis, some supplements may contain ingredients which were previously allowed but are now prohibited. In addition, some less scrupulous manufacturers may inadequately or incorrectly label product ingredients, making it difficult for the athlete to identify safe products, even if they are aware of the WADA list.

2. Contamination of a product: 

By the use of ingredients which contain trace amounts of WADA prohibited substances

In the manufacturing process where traces of other products (which contain WADA prohibited substances) are manufactured in the same facility and find their way into another product.

[Danger Dassie]

7 hours ago, PhilipV said:

Yes. I refuse to use anything made by USN for  this reason. 

Almost every supplement is at risk, particularly cheaper/smaller brands. Unless the product goes through an audited batch testing process such as informed sport. Which is a large cost to carry.

 

[Danger Dassie]

9 hours ago, Red Bird said:

Not sure. I find it hard to believe all those substances came from the shake too. But, these powders rarely get tested, and not all substances are listed on the label, so, even well-known brands end up with these banned substances.

Well then that’s a bold statement to make by naming an actual brand/product without the offering of any proof. There are also no hearing docs on any of the four case that I could see, so if contamination was a concern, why not exercise the right to a hearing. 
There is no way there is 3-4 steroid contaminations in a single supplement. The one case say RAD140, which is in lifestyle supplements. 

Sorry, but your posts are wildly open ended whilst throwing a brand under the bus. It’s almost as bad as CSA and Gauteng Cycling keeping quiet and just quietly editing documents over team announcements.

We have to find out from Instagram and BikeHub.

[Red Bird]

25 minutes ago, Danger Dassie said:

Well then that’s a bold statement to make by naming an actual brand/product without the offering of any proof. There are also no hearing docs on any of the four case that I could see, so if contamination was a concern, why not exercise the right to a hearing. 
There is no way there is 3-4 steroid contaminations in a single supplement. The one case say RAD140, which is in lifestyle supplements. 

Sorry, but your posts are wildly open ended whilst throwing a brand under the bus. It’s almost as bad as CSA and Gauteng Cycling keeping quiet and just quietly editing documents over team announcements.

We have to find out from Instagram and BikeHub.

At least we got the notifications to an online SAIDS course from Gauteng Cycling, but not enough has been done to motivate riders to attend. Riders generally don’t think that they could be doping accidentally. Once we understand the risks, more will be aware of what they put in their bodies.

[Toasted marshmallows]

Would love to hear mark wolf from 32gi remarks to that claim.... 

I would love to hear from csa if they ever did a case study with the supply chain of steroids and peptides since its so easy to get online.... 

Anabolics-sa.co.za 

And research peptides....

 

[Danger Dassie]

14 hours ago, Red Bird said:

At least we got the notifications to an online SAIDS course from Gauteng Cycling, but not enough has been done to motivate riders to attend. Riders generally don’t think that they could be doping accidentally. Once we understand the risks, more will be aware of what they put in their bodies.

Totally irrelevant. Have not seen any such notice. 
And what is your connection here?