DieselnDust Posted June 6 Share 16 minutes ago, mecheng89 said: Age groupers shouldn't get prize money, especially if you're employed in a high position at a well-known bank. But I get your point. I see what you did there mecheng89 and Jewbacca 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted June 6 Share 48 minutes ago, mecheng89 said: It seems athletes are just willing to take this risk. Or, like in some instances, they get forced to do it by senior people they trust. But like I heard on a podcast, why is it only the athlete that gets slammed? Why don't the administrators/coaches behind the scenes also get a lashing? Salazar is an example of a coach that got nailed, but in general? Nope, everyone gets it on this channel, especially the old dopers now involved with teams where athletes break doper records from years ago and are supposedly "clean". mecheng89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted June 6 Share 36 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: I see what you did there Went over my head 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckstopper Posted June 6 Share 54 minutes ago, mecheng89 said: Age groupers shouldn't get prize money, especially if you're employed in a high position at a well-known bank. But I get your point. IMHO, for age groupers, the incentive to dope has more to do with narcissism than money, especially when prize money often just about pays for your entry costs. 'Successful' cycling age groupers often are semi retired, or are in careers where they can put in the 15 hours+ per week needed to be at the pointy end of races. mecheng89, mazambaan and DieselnDust 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt67 Posted June 7 Share On 6/6/2024 at 11:39 AM, buckstopper said: IMHO, for age groupers, the incentive to dope has more to do with narcissism than money, especially when prize money often just about pays for your entry costs. 'Successful' cycling age groupers often are semi retired, or are in careers where they can put in the 15 hours+ per week needed to be at the pointy end of races. Only have to look at the number of masters and vets cyclists caught doping over the last few years to confirm this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt67 Posted June 7 Share https://drugfreesport.org.za/cases/?athlete_sport=cycling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peetwindhoek Posted June 7 Share 1 hour ago, bolt67 said: https://drugfreesport.org.za/cases/?athlete_sport=cycling It seems a bit short, would have thought there would be more… mecheng89 and Jbr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 7 Share 20 minutes ago, peetwindhoek said: It seems a bit short, would have thought there would be more… There are more names missing. It was mentioned previously that some data was lost. peetwindhoek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted June 8 Share 19 hours ago, bolt67 said: https://drugfreesport.org.za/cases/?athlete_sport=cycling anyone specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted June 8 Share 18 hours ago, Frosty said: There are more names missing. It was mentioned previously that some data was lost. Names missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 8 Share 6 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: Names missing? He was on the list for a pee-pee test at “our” race in February, but didn’t arrive for the start. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 8 Share Peter Seyffert https://bikehub.co.za/news/seyffert-receives-two-year-ban-from-competition-r809/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 8 Share I don’t see Yolande de Villiers either. https://bikehub.co.za/news/yolande-de-villiers-sanctioned-for-anti-doping-rule-violation-r4094/ DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 8 Share Maroesjka Matthee another DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 8 Share Tyronne White https://bikehub.co.za/news/anti-doping-rule-violation-tyronne-white-r5959/?comments_page=8 DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 8 Share It would appear that BikeHub has a better database of offenders. Andrew Steer, justinafrika, Jbr and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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