geomark Posted June 27, 2019 Share WADA has 100 'strong' Russian doping casesMore than 100 "strong cases'' of suspected Russian doping are being prepared using data retrieved from the Moscow testing laboratory.World Anti-Doping Agency president Craig Reedie said Wednesday it is "packaging evidence'' for sports governing bodies to prosecute the highest priority cases.https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/27058739/wada-100-strong-russian-doping-cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted August 2, 2019 Share Saw this on instagram, wonder who they riders are that were banned... https://www.instagram.com/p/B0lNRDhisYa/?igshid=5auzalvpz5dn Andrew Steer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted August 2, 2019 Share Saw this on instagram, wonder who they riders are that were banned... https://www.instagram.com/p/B0lNRDhisYa/?igshid=5auzalvpz5dn I know one of the banned was supposed to be her Epic partner but withdrew at the last minute - can't recall the name now Quagga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imploder Posted August 2, 2019 Share Not really cycling related. But what are hubs thoughts on doping in swimming? It seems that at every big meet, be it World champs or Olympics, World Records are broken. Looking at the current list of world records there are 8 World records that were broken at the the most recent world champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisismyotherbike Posted August 2, 2019 Share Saw this on instagram, wonder who they riders are that were banned... https://www.instagram.com/p/B0lNRDhisYa/?igshid=5auzalvpz5dn https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/182964-two-female-mountain-bikers-busted-for-doping/?p=3534660 Quagga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Steer Posted August 2, 2019 Share Not really cycling related. But what are hubs thoughts on doping in swimming? It seems that at every big meet, be it World champs or Olympics, World Records are broken. Looking at the current list of world records there are 8 World records that were broken at the the most recent world champs.On paper, current athletes should generally be the best or on par with the best...I'm not sure it's an obvious sign of doping. Of course they could, and many are quite possibly doping. Most sports anti-doping measures are pretty Mickey Mouse compared to cycling. The big problem in many sports was in the past, where they had free reign and set records that 'clean' athletes will struggle to ever get near. Just scroll through the women athletics records and compare them to current times... not sure how you undo history though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Buttox Posted August 2, 2019 Share Not really cycling related. But what are hubs thoughts on doping in swimming? It seems that at every big meet, be it World champs or Olympics, World Records are broken. Looking at the current list of world records there are 8 World records that were broken at the the most recent world champs.As someone very close to that world, I would suggest that even over here, testing is not that great unless you are in the elite leagues, although there is a concerted effort to atleast make people aware of the dangers. Let's put it this way - Michael Phelps is an extreme physical specimen with some extraordinary physical gifts including a rare genetic predisposition to lactate tolerance and a torso that was extremely long relative to his legs (which is perfect for swimming) and a wo rk ethic second to none. And his 200m fly record was smashed. Edited August 2, 2019 by Thor Buttox Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imploder Posted August 2, 2019 Share As someone very close to that world, I would suggest that even over here, testing is not that great unless you are in the elite leagues, although there is a concerted effort to atleast make people aware of the dangers. Let's put it this way - Michael Phelps is an extreme physical specimen with some extraordinary physical gifts including a rare genetic predisposition to lactate tolerance and a torso that was extremely long relative to his legs (which is perfect for swimming) and a wo rk ethic second to none. And his 200m fly record was smashed. It boggles the mind. Water as a medium requires exponential increases in power in order move through it faster. There is no technological hokus-pocus that you can introduce, I mean its a guy in a speedo. And yet these records continue to tumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knersboy Posted August 2, 2019 Share Not really cycling related. But what are hubs thoughts on doping in swimming? It seems that at every big meet, be it World champs or Olympics, World Records are broken. Looking at the current list of world records there are 8 World records that were broken at the the most recent world champs.I have been thinking the same thing for years. In my mind doping is as prevalent in all sports as in cycling, although there is an argument that due to cycling rep which results in more stringent testing regimes, maybe there is less doping in cycling. Also the prize money in most sports is better than in cycling, so even more incentive to dope. Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ker Posted September 6, 2019 Share SAIDS website has a list of convicted dopers. makes an interesting read, http://www.drugfreesport.org.za/cases/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted September 6, 2019 Share I have said many times, I reckon 'doping' has taken on new forms. The elite doping is probably genetic altering and stem cell training etc. Gone are the days of steroids etc for those that do it 'properly'. I know someone who swims in the 'masters' catagory. She goes to world champs etc and 'they all' use pig testicle hormones or something weird. She sees absolutely no issue in this as it's 'not illegal'. I seriously don't think 'drugs' are being used that much in top level doping anymore. As science progresses so rapidly, so does the ability to keep ahead of what can be tested for or what they are able to even test for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted September 6, 2019 Share I have said many times, I reckon 'doping' has taken on new forms. The elite doping is probably genetic altering and stem cell training etc. Gone are the days of steroids etc for those that do it 'properly'. I know someone who swims in the 'masters' catagory. She goes to world champs etc and 'they all' use pig testicle hormones or something weird. She sees absolutely no issue in this as it's 'not illegal'. I seriously don't think 'drugs' are being used that much in top level doping anymore. As science progresses so rapidly, so does the ability to keep ahead of what can be tested for or what they are able to even test for. Jeezus, the lengths some people will go to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin PJ Posted September 6, 2019 Share I have heard of the pig testicles stuff. It's called testis compositum. I think it is a homeopathic placebo treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr3mlin131 Posted September 6, 2019 Share SAIDS website has a list of convicted dopers. makes an interesting read, http://www.drugfreesport.org.za/cases/ I saw the person on there caught for doping in bowls, had a quick laugh, then googled the things they were busted for. Turns out I am on one of those . Should I be worried doing my races (funrides) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted September 6, 2019 Share I just hate seeing dopers on adverts for Mtb races and stage races. Puts me off riding them. No one is sorry, they just bleak got caught. Also dopers can be lekker people around the braai, people dont understand that Quagga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. G Posted September 6, 2019 Share I saw the person on there caught for doping in bowls, had a quick laugh, then googled the things they were busted for. Turns out I am on one of those . Should I be worried doing my races (funrides) ? I have been out of the loop...now I see why Shan Wilson has not been partnering with Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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