Price point to sell damaged carbon road bike frame

[Eugene]

To answer your question, I would take Drago's offer. Not many people would buy a damaged frame.

[Vetseun]

Irrespective of right or wrong concerning insurance etc.

I would have zero confidence flying down a hill on a frame that I know was repaired. It would always be in the back of my mind.

The OP didnt repair the frame and ride the bike himself. He claimed from his insurance for a new frame, ie the frame was considered a writeoff?

But, the frame is okay for somebody else to have repaired and ride?

IMHO, if you arent willing to ride it yourself, dont sell it to somebody else to ride.

[Trawsaj]

The insurance company never contacted me about recovering the frame. (It's been 11 months) I did ask the agent I spoke to that handled my claim. She said she would find out, but never came back to me. In fact, after they took the frame in for assessment, they arranged for it to be delivered back to me. 

 

I would also never sell anything that's damaged without a full disclaimer. The little bit of research I did indicated that the frame could be repaired to a safe riding condition by knowledgeable carbon repairers. 

 

Thanks for your inputs guys

[Oufy MTB (Roadie)]

The insurance company never contacted me about recovering the frame. (It's been 11 months) I did ask the agent I spoke to that handled my claim. She said she would find out, but never came back to me. In fact, after they took the frame in for assessment, they arranged for it to be delivered back to me. 

 

I would also never sell anything that's damaged without a full disclaimer. The little bit of research I did indicated that the frame could be repaired to a safe riding condition by knowledgeable carbon repairers. 

 

Thanks for your inputs guys

Well if the insurance took the time, money and effort to deliver it back to you then it is yours to do what you want.

[Paul Ruinaard]

I have been told that you can repair carbon to be stronger than the surrounding frame - which can even result in stress in the areas alongside it and cause further breaks.  I did have a carbon rim repaired and it failed again but i think that was the repairer.

 

However the thing about repairs is the confidence that you will have in the frame - are you ever going to really trust it? 

 

You have an ethical dilemma as well here - face it. You can only really get a minimal price for it and legally you are obliged to return the proceeds to your insurer if you benefitted as salvage or at least notify them of the fact that you have made some money on it. Illegally they would never know.

 

And now the hub knows about it you are pretty much not going to be able to list it here easily.

 

Why not do a deal to get it repaired at cost by a repairer and then give it to the next needy guy who appears on the hub, or to a good cause that would be able to benefit fully knowing it's a repaired frame?

 

For a lot of people the repaired frame is better than none....

 

 

 

 

[Pure Savage]

My Venge  had a crack on the rear stay, "repairable" but would only have a years warranty on repair unlike the  4 years I had remaining on the venge frame. Therefore insurance company had to replace frame as in a worse position than before accident regarding the warranty. 

 

The crack is not easily seen and on a plain part of the pain, if they were to repair it the insurer could very easily sell the frame with recovered components. 

 

The quote to repair my much smaller crack was a bit more than the prices quoted here.

[Skinnyone]

That frame is easily repaired...but it won't be for free, and I would have no issues riding on it...would I pay for it outright? - No...

 

I think a frame that damaged should be given away - just my honest opinion.

[Edge_Design]

There is a market for damaged frames - for whatever reason - so you end up with a willing seller, willing buyer situation at some value (R2k seems like a great offer already) which is 100% reasonable. Most insurers really don't care about a possible R2k loss so I really wouldn't worry about that if they haven't asked for the frame (which they were entitled to do and chose not to do). The worst they could do is claim the R2k loss from you - then you cancel your insurance as a result and they lose a whole lot more than that (i.e. they are very unlikely to cause any trouble!).

 

A knowledgeable person could probably repair it to a very safe condition - the biggest issue is the people who studied carbon repairs with Dr Google and are now experts on it. I guess that's not your problem - it's up to a buyer to do it properly and then disclose that fact when trying to sell it again.

 

People seem to get side tracked very quickly from a simple request for a value. Take the R2k offer and move on with your life - you're unlikely to get more than that.

[Pulse]

There is a market for damaged frames - for whatever reason - so you end up with a willing seller, willing buyer situation at some value (R2k seems like a great offer already) which is 100% reasonable. Most insurers really don't care about a possible R2k loss so I really wouldn't worry about that if they haven't asked for the frame (which they were entitled to do and chose not to do). The worst they could do is claim the R2k loss from you - then you cancel your insurance as a result and they lose a whole lot more than that (i.e. they are very unlikely to cause any trouble!).

 

A knowledgeable person could probably repair it to a very safe condition - the biggest issue is the people who studied carbon repairs with Dr Google and are now experts on it. I guess that's not your problem - it's up to a buyer to do it properly and then disclose that fact when trying to sell it again.

 

People seem to get side tracked very quickly from a simple request for a value. Take the R2k offer and move on with your life - you're unlikely to get more than that.

Well said

[Mountain_Goat]

If I remember correctly, there was a guy here on the hub looking to buy damaged carbon frames.Think his name was'Pornstar'

[Skinnyone]

There is a market for damaged frames - for whatever reason - so you end up with a willing seller, willing buyer situation at some value (R2k seems like a great offer already) which is 100% reasonable. Most insurers really don't care about a possible R2k loss so I really wouldn't worry about that if they haven't asked for the frame (which they were entitled to do and chose not to do). The worst they could do is claim the R2k loss from you - then you cancel your insurance as a result and they lose a whole lot more than that (i.e. they are very unlikely to cause any trouble!).

 

A knowledgeable person could probably repair it to a very safe condition - the biggest issue is the people who studied carbon repairs with Dr Google and are now experts on it. I guess that's not your problem - it's up to a buyer to do it properly and then disclose that fact when trying to sell it again.

 

People seem to get side tracked very quickly from a simple request for a value. Take the R2k offer and move on with your life - you're unlikely to get more than that.

Ah yes good old Google...YouTube is another dangerous place to learn carbon repair....I watch a vid where a dude slapped a whole bunch of carbon on top of a frame and smeared it with so much epoxy (epoxy adds little value to the overall strength but can add weight quickly) then he had to sand half of it off to regain some form of cosmetic value...

 

all just to fix a bottle cage insert that came loose. - this could have been sorted with little or no glue and a new rivnut insert...

 

Be careful of your "experts" out there...

[pista]

To answer your question, I would take Drago's offer. Not many people would buy a damaged frame.

What he said^^^^

 

I don't think it's worth that much so take that deal.

[pista]

 I damaged the downtube on my Deddacciai Gladiatore 

How was the frame damaged?

[Danger Dassie]

Depends on how superficial the damage may be, as well as the location. An insurance write off isn't an indication of 'expertise' by any measure. 

 

I'm sitting with a carbon frame that has a small crack in the top tube, a repair by a reputable service is more than enough. Helicopter rotor blades are often repaired if it warrants it.

 

Keep everything above board and honest. Make sure you take good before and after images with the repair as well as some sort of repair document detailing the work done, put the frame up for sale open to offers. 

[eddy]

 

 

I would also never sell anything that's damaged without a full disclaimer. The little bit of research I did indicated that the frame could be repaired to a safe riding condition by knowledgeable carbon repairers. 

 

 

Three points:

 

I would be hesitant to sell the broken frame as we have seen people repair and on-sell damaged equipment on the Hub without disclosing the status of the frame;

 

Second, I have had a damaged, but not destroyed carbon frame professionally repaired at my cost and gave it to my brother who has been riding it for a while now;

 

Third,  If research points to the fact a frame can be safely repaired, should your claim not have been for a repair rather than a replacement? The other guys in your risk pool will be paying for the difference through their increased premiums.

[Pure Savage]

 

Third,  If research points to the fact a frame can be safely repaired, should your claim not have been for a repair rather than a replacement? The other guys in your risk pool will be paying for the difference through their increased premiums.

 

If the repair only carries a one year warranty but your original frame has a life time warranty, then you are in a worse off position than before the incident. Hence the insurer would have to replace the frame, regardless of the ability to repair frame.