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It seems that the downs are the new place to attack.

 

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Or am i missing something.....

 

TBH, a dangerous route, a dangerous downhill and all of that is as dangerous as the riders make it. Out of 190 riders, only about 5 came short on the downhill, the guys going beyond their limits. Same with sprints and corners, know your limits.

 

If you dont have the skills to follow on the downhills, well its part of racing, so better your skills to be able to keep up. Froome did this, he sucked on downhills, so he worked on it, a lot, and now the others are left behind.

 

To me its just as spectacular as the racing uphill and an added bonus is you cannot dope or cheat to become a better bike handler, that only comes with practice.

 

Neutralizing a downhill because one or two guys are jittery is really taking a lot out of the race and in a Tour with minimal uphill chances to win time, they should use their skills even more.

It has finally become a race where a well rounded rider wins, not just the TTer or the climber, because they have one place where they can eliminate all competition. The result is also that guys that normally would loose places because the tour was built for one specific rider, is now getting a chance, Bardet is a good example.

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TBH, a dangerous route, a dangerous downhill and all of that is as dangerous as the riders make it. Out of 190 riders, only about 5 came short on the downhill, the guys going beyond their limits. Same with sprints and corners, know your limits.

 

If you dont have the skills to follow on the downhills, well its part of racing, so better your skills to be able to keep up. Froome did this, he sucked on downhills, so he worked on it, a lot, and now the others are left behind.

 

To me its just as spectacular as the racing uphill and an added bonus is you cannot dope or cheat to become a better bike handler, that only comes with practice.

 

Neutralizing a downhill because one or two guys are jittery is really taking a lot out of the race and in a Tour with minimal uphill chances to win time, they should use their skills even more.

It has finally become a race where a well rounded rider wins, not just the TTer or the climber, because they have one place where they can eliminate all competition. The result is also that guys that normally would loose places because the tour was built for one specific rider, is now getting a chance, Bardet is a good example.

Good points you make there 

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Aru says he did not see Froome mechanical. Dude should be pulled from the race, if you cannot see a 6ft tall rider decked out in full yellow raise his hand us you ride under his shoulder you are a hazard to those around you and should remove yourself from riding in the peleton. 

 

I am not sure if his team mates care for him either. Fulgsang, pretty much dropped Aru in the final pull to the line where Aru could have done with some time bonus's. 

 

 

What? Pulled from the race? Why must he be pulled from the race? No disrespect to anyone but they racing bikes, there is no rule that says you cannot attack at any given time. Yes, unwritten of sorts but that is applied when it suites those involved. Everyone has at some stage broken that and its not uncommon. 

 

In general what I find hard to understand is how someones judgement is based on how much they do or don't like a rider. Always look at things neutral with all the facts as if you don't have a tender to like or dislike a rider. 

 

Im not defending Aru or condoning what he may of done, I am merely saying what he did was well with in the rules of racing bikes. You cannot throw someone out for racing his bike.

 

Remember when someone was having a pooh during the Giro.....Wasnt a outcry to throw people out then.

 

 

 

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Comic Sans............ Beating a dead horse.

Okay just got it - feeling stupid... :rolleyes:

 

Bit slow on Monday morning. Need my vitamins...

 

It doesn't mean i didnt go and try to look at the footage to see the elbow and was wondering why there wasn't an uproar...

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Barquil cries after losing out to Uran Uran

Another stunning image by Gruber

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Was that not cries of joy?

 

He seemed to think he had won the stage[emoji15]

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Now I know I am probably just sounding like a fanboy (as I have been accused before - yes I like Froome - deal with it). BUT Yesterday was properly exciting and I don't think anyone can say that there was a lack of passion in Froome's racing - clinical in the way there was very few mistakes maybe (except for thinking an Astana rider would not attack - Nibali 2015 tour Version 2.0 - textbook)

 

The GC race is very interesting considering the lack of form and crashes now from most of the favourites. Just wish I had trusted my gut and picked Bardet instead of Quitana

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What? Pulled from the race? Why must he be pulled from the race? No disrespect to anyone but they racing bikes, there is no rule that says you cannot attack at any given time. Yes, unwritten of sorts but that is applied when it suites those involved. Everyone has at some stage broken that and its not uncommon.

 

In general what I find hard to understand is how someones judgement is based on how much they do or don't like a rider. Always look at things neutral with all the facts as if you don't have a tender to like or dislike a rider.

 

Im not defending Aru or condoning what he may of done, I am merely saying what he did was well with in the rules of racing bikes. You cannot throw someone out for racing his bike.

 

Remember when someone was having a pooh during the Giro.....Wasnt a outcry to throw people out then.

 

 

 

I think if you read Savages post again, you will see that he was sarcastically saying that if Aru couldnt see Froome, he is as blind as a bat, and because he can't see out of his eye balls he should be pulled from the race.

 

Not that he should be pulled from the race because he attacked Froome, not even the biggest Sky fanboys would say that.

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What? Pulled from the race? Why must he be pulled from the race? No disrespect to anyone but they racing bikes, there is no rule that says you cannot attack at any given time. Yes, unwritten of sorts but that is applied when it suites those involved. Everyone has at some stage broken that and its not uncommon. 

 

In general what I find hard to understand is how someones judgement is based on how much they do or don't like a rider. Always look at things neutral with all the facts as if you don't have a tender to like or dislike a rider. 

 

Im not defending Aru or condoning what he may of done, I am merely saying what he did was well with in the rules of racing bikes. You cannot throw someone out for racing his bike.

 

Remember when someone was having a pooh during the Giro.....Wasnt a outcry to throw people out then.

 

 

Because clearly he is blind. Or his excuses just suck. It was most probably a tongue in cheek response?

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Shame, you must feel for him.

Not often the guy who wins thinks he came second and goes to his bus and the 2nd place celebrates. Rigo must have been hurting from that 11t power session not to think he had won.

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I think if you read Savages post again, you will see that he was sarcastically saying that if Aru couldnt see Froome, he is as blind as a bat, and because he can't see out of his eye balls he should be pulled from the race.

 

Not that he should be pulled from the race because he attacked Froome, not even the biggest Sky fanboys would say that.

 

Maybe Savage should put crip notes in his replies for those that have not yet had their Monday morning coffee.  :whistling:

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In general what I find hard to understand is how someones judgement is based on how much they do or don't like a rider. Always look at things neutral with all the facts as if you don't have a tender to like or dislike a rider. 

 

 

 

 

If the Hub adhered to these guidelines, Fridays would never be the same!

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Maybe Savage should put crip notes in his replies for those that have not yet had their Monday morning coffee. :whistling:

He is a big Contador fan, and I think yesterday was a decisive moment in his career. So maybe just dealing with that still.

 

As a fan it must be sad to see Contador as a shadow of his old self.

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Worked all weekend in Jozi

I am now at km 3 of yesterday's stage

Roads look damp

I record the whole event and then watch the recording, stopping and pausing as time allow, so ... avoid this chat throughout that period so I don't get any updates. Anyone remember the days of "Delayed Live"? lol

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