geomark Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 Looks like Nairo ain't going to be pushing too hard:https://twitter.com/robhatchtv/status/887578580120678400 RNC Radio: 'Nairo has two offers on the table, one from AST, one from SKY. He's studying them both...the atmosphere at MOV isn't the best'
Patchelicious Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 Hrs still in the young rider category - As are othersOn a fantastic curve of development - As are othersPeak performance is possible at age 27 or thereabouts Many guys his age that will contest for Yellow in a few years, and probably some new ones too. All to be revealedA second consecutive top 10er is stunning Now to lean into that top 5 Unfortunately, he's freelancing and team support is integral to higher honours. I think you guys are missing my point, and defending LM before trying to understand what I am saying. These things listed above, is simply echoing what most here, and I already know and agree with. But he isn't the only one in that boat. There are others too that are being developed, some just out the White Jersey category. Bardet, Quinatana, Chaves, Yates etc are all still going to be a round for long time. The question that keeps coming up is about his ability or desire to attack. It is an essential skill that is needed to win, and you don't just learn once you are 27. If little lion cubs didn't play fight, they would get clapped once they get to adult size. If he is going as hard as he can and simply can't muster an attack, then we have a concern.If he can attack and isn't, then why? Again, I am not telling him how to ride, I am not a DS and know little about cycling, but I know enough to say that unless somebody attacks they don't win. Else we must just be content with repeat "Its so awesome having a saffa in the top 10" each year. If you read this as anything negative on LM, and not just as observational, then read it again.
mon-goose Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 see this has been posted but there are a few other pics http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/TourdeFrance/tdf-rider-posts-horror-pic-of-legs-20170719 looks terrible
Patchelicious Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 LM - ripped. Man or machine. louis.jpgYeah, I posted that about a week ago saying that those look like the legs of a man who is at the TDF to make a statement.
Bonus Posted July 19, 2017 Author Posted July 19, 2017 We first met Louis last September in a stage of the Vuelta that was close to our house. Last Friday we met him at the Tour. I'd say he was calmer and more confident this year than he was 9 months ago at the Vuelta. I have high hopes for him and I believe he knows what his limits are and what his long term plan is. We're watching with interest :-)
Wannabe Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 Agree with Patch. (spit, splutter, cough) Is why I said a few times already, LM must stop following wheels around like a obedient puppy, and attack the guys.We know he can, and has shown already that he can ride guys off his wheels on those steep inclines.
SwissVan Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 I think you guys are missing my point, and defending LM before trying to understand what I am saying. These things listed above, is simply echoing what most here, and I already know and agree with. But he isn't the only one in that boat. There are others too that are being developed, some just out the White Jersey category. Bardet, Quinatana, Chaves, Yates etc are all still going to be a round for long time. The question that keeps coming up is about his ability or desire to attack. It is an essential skill that is needed to win, and you don't just learn once you are 27. If little lion cubs didn't play fight, they would get clapped once they get to adult size. If he is going shard as he can and simply can't muster an attack, then we have a concern.If he can attack and isn't, then why? Again, I am not telling him how to ride, I am not a DS and know little about cycling, but I know enough to say that unless somebody attacks they don't win. Else we must just be content with repeat "Its so awesome having a saffa in the top 10" each year. If you read this as anything negative on LM, and not just as observational, then read it again.I think and hope he is following a long term plan (5 year or something like this) to develop his abilities to be more than the already excellent climber he is. These abilities take time and usually the quicker the gains the harder the fall..... so perhaps we need to be patient? Something like serving an apprenticeship..... Helluva apprenticeship so far ????
Patchelicious Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 Agree with Patch. (spit, splutter, cough) Is why I said a few times already, LM must stop following wheels around like a obedient puppy, and attack the guys.We know he can, and has shown already that he can ride guys off his wheels on those steep inclines.Im not always a knobhead
Fat Boab Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 I think and hope he is following a long term plan (5 year or something like this) to develop his abilities to be more than the already excellent climber he is. These abilities take time and usually the quicker the gains the harder the fall..... so perhaps we need to be patient? Something like serving an apprenticeship..... Helluva apprenticeship so far What kind of abilities are you referring to? Something more than 'just' physical development presumably?
The Bull Shark Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 I think you guys are missing my point, and defending LM before trying to understand what I am saying. These things listed above, is simply echoing what most here, and I already know and agree with. But he isn't the only one in that boat. There are others too that are being developed, some just out the White Jersey category. Bardet, Quinatana, Chaves, Yates etc are all still going to be a round for long time. The question that keeps coming up is about his ability or desire to attack. It is an essential skill that is needed to win, and you don't just learn once you are 27. If little lion cubs didn't play fight, they would get clapped once they get to adult size. If he is going as hard as he can and simply can't muster an attack, then we have a concern.If he can attack and isn't, then why? Again, I am not telling him how to ride, I am not a DS and know little about cycling, but I know enough to say that unless somebody attacks they don't win. Else we must just be content with repeat "Its so awesome having a saffa in the top 10" each year. If you read this as anything negative on LM, and not just as observational, then read it again. Agree with you. I think, firstly Louis must change team, and then target the Giro and Vuelta for 2 years in a row. He must also do some of the classics in Belgium and the Netherlands to learn how to handle crosswinds. Even if he does not finish high up, the experience is golden. At the moment he is riding mostly in Italy. I also believe that he focus too narrowly on Italian teams. He must spread his wings.
Vetplant Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 Agree with you. I think, firstly Louis must change team, and then target the Giro and Vuelta for 2 years in a row. He must also do some of the classics in Belgium and the Netherlands to learn how to handle crosswinds. Even if he does not finish high up, the experience is golden. At the moment he is riding mostly in Italy. I also believe that he focus too narrowly on Italian teams. He must spread his wings. 1.Yes2.Yes3.Yes4. YES Agreed
Squier Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 I was pissed off with Louis yesterday for missing that break. It just feels as if he's always sitting at the back, whether it's a flat stage or a select group in the mountains. It also comes down to not having a strong team. But he's a talented rider. Yates have been riding better than expected on the long hard climbs. Let's hope Louis can break him on the Galibier today. Side note: Found it quite funny in the latest podcast when Lance Armstrong compared David Brailsford to himself. Perhaps something he needs to think about...
Sharkie 2 Posted July 19, 2017 Posted July 19, 2017 So my big question would be for today....when Froome will put his hand up and have a mechanical? Also will Froome prove today that he is the strongest in Sky and not Landa
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