PPA: Please obey the rules of the road

[Pure Savage]

This is the first time that twitter discussions regarding cycling are more logical than on the hub. 

[HowardSteele]

"Pass other cyclists on the right with an audible verbal warning. Other cyclists expect you to pass on their right hand side

 

The passing on the right seems to be confusing cyclist on the trail,and not only newbys .

It seems we need to clarify Pass an approaching cyclist to Your left unless the trail does not allow this .Passing the cyclist from behind (When overtaking.)..pass to the right and yes please give an audible warning "Passing " or ring bell

Edited July 10, 2018 by HowardSteele

[Headshot]

You see when most of us ride on the road we are extremely aware of our surroundings. A motorist  on the other hand may be texting and or listening to the radio or loud music or chatting to the passenger. In a bubble and divorced from reality. Say I safely cross the road on my bike in front of said boy/girl in bubble who looks up from phone and gets a fright because he/she didn't see me sooner. I get a negative score in the motorists addled mind. 

 

When I hear that motorists moan about cyclists "riding without any concern for their safety", I smell a rat. These drivers could care less about the cyclists life. They are just venting and justifying their behaviour and attitude. If they were honest, they'd admit that most motorists break the law far more regularly and that cyclists barely warrant any attention on this front. 

 

I firmly believe that the vocal anti-cyclist motorists out there will always be on the look out for a group to vent on. They probably have the same attitude to motorcycles and pedestrians. No amount of good behaviour by cyclists will change that basic intolerant attitude.

[Fat Boab]

You see when most of us ride on the road we are extremely aware of our surroundings. A motorist  on the other hand may be texting and or listening to the radio or loud music or chatting to the passenger. In a bubble and divorced from reality. Say I safely cross the road on my bike in front of said boy/girl in bubble who looks up from phone and gets a fright because he/she didn't see me sooner. I get a negative score in the motorists addled mind. 

 

 

Sadly I see lots of road cyclists with headphones in, bopping to Eye of The Tiger or whatever is on their inspirational play list.....

[DieselnDust]

Sadly I see lots of road cyclists with headphones in, bopping to Eye of The Tiger or whatever is on their inspirational play list.....

Yes a newish curse that has emigrated from Wattbike culture

[Headshot]

Sadly I see lots of road cyclists with headphones in, bopping to Eye of The Tiger or whatever is on their inspirational play list.....

I agree, there is that and its mad IMO. I want to hear whats coming up behind me. 

[Eldron]

You see when most of us ride on the road we are extremely aware of our surroundings. A motorist  on the other hand may be texting and or listening to the radio or loud music or chatting to the passenger. In a bubble and divorced from reality. Say I safely cross the road on my bike in front of said boy/girl in bubble who looks up from phone and gets a fright because he/she didn't see me sooner. I get a negative score in the motorists addled mind. 

 

When I hear that motorists moan about cyclists "riding without any concern for their safety", I smell a rat. These drivers could care less about the cyclists life. They are just venting and justifying their behaviour and attitude. If they were honest, they'd admit that most motorists break the law far more regularly and that cyclists barely warrant any attention on this front. 

 

I firmly believe that the vocal anti-cyclist motorists out there will always be on the look out for a group to vent on. They probably have the same attitude to motorcycles and pedestrians. No amount of good behaviour by cyclists will change that basic intolerant attitude.

 

There is probably a carhub out there with exactly the same posting only the word motorist and cyclist are swapped.

[Fat Boab]

I agree, there is that and its mad IMO. I want to hear whats coming up behind me. 

 

Yip, situational awareness is difficult enough to concentrate on, particularly during an effort, without having Justin Bieber singing in my ear...

[Quagga]

Sadly I see lots of road cyclists with headphones in, bopping to Eye of The Tiger or whatever is on their inspirational play list.....

 

In my mind they are endangering their lives only.... and I also think that hearing getting hit is not going to make a difference to the outcome.

 

Also, what about someone who can not hear or has bad hearing?

[Headshot]

In my mind they are endangering their lives only.... and I also think that hearing getting hit is not going to make a difference to the outcome.

 

Also, what about someone who can not hear or has bad hearing?

If I'm riding up Rhodes Drive on my road bike I can hear when one of those large City Tour busses or a truck is coming from behind and I then leave the tar in good time and do a bit of gravel or gutter. Headphones on and I would not have an early warning. 

[Quagga]

If I'm riding up Rhodes Drive on my road bike I can hear when one of those large City Tour busses or a truck is coming from behind and I then leave the tar in good time and do a bit of gravel or gutter. Headphones on and I would not have an early warning. 

Ok Good point. But what does the person with hearing disability do? Get run over because the bus does not adhere to 1.2M?

 

EDIT: Which is why I dont believe it should be policed from the traffic side, we should have the option to decide..Yes it is safer to ride without them but should not be traffic law

Edited July 10, 2018 by Quagga

[Headshot]

Ok Good point. But what does the person with hearing disability do? Get run over because the bus does not adhere to 1.2M?

 

EDIT: Which is why I dont believe it should be policed from the traffic side, we should have the option to decide..Yes it is safer to ride without them but should not be traffic law

I agree with you. i simply ride to live and on a narrow road I ride off the tar if a large vehicle approaches from behind. There are times when i'd love to have some music to ride to.

[Patchelicious]

Ok Good point. But what does the person with hearing disability do? Get run over because the bus does not adhere to 1.2M?

 

EDIT: Which is why I dont believe it should be policed from the traffic side, we should have the option to decide..Yes it is safer to ride without them but should not be traffic law

So should we be given the option to text and drive too?

[DieselnDust]

there is always dispensation granted to people with disabilities. the hearing impaired would fall into this category.

But how does the motorist know that the cyclist can't hear them approaching?

Not everyone has access to Varia.

 

Simple, Motorists need to understand that others lives is just as much their responsibility as it is the person. It is under this premise that more mature society's place the responsibility for life in the hands of the motorist

[Quagga]

So should we be given the option to text and drive too?

Test and drive you can kill OTHERS

 

Listen music and ride, you are going to kill yourself 

 

tha tis my opinion since I am look at the hearing impared

[Patchelicious]

Test and drive you can kill OTHERS

 

Listen music and ride, you are going to kill yourself

 

tha tis my opinion since I am look at the hearing impared

If you swerve in front of my car because you didn’t hear me coming, yes I might survive and you might die, BUT I will have to live with killing another human being for the rest of my life.

 

So no, it’s not just your life that gets ruined.