FCH Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 Would rather do the Trans Alps before either of them. Why do MTBers have an obsession with ST? Given the choice between the Cape Epic and Trans Cape, I would do the Trans Cape.
SwissVan Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 Wada wada wada.Hehe I saw what u did.... jada jada jada every year it's the same.... people whining about the epic price and routes and and....People: it's simple, if u don't like it it don't even look at it ✌️️ Happy new year all, may the single track be all downhill
Grogs Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 your on the lower income tax bracket then not really paying tax for the income and probably cannot afford to cycle - Idd say you are pretty damn lucky to be able to ride if you can take your whole years salary and go and do a race like the epic. If you are using your whole years salary you probably don't have kids or a wife to support and can probably also not afford the training you need to do and the maintenance on the bike to get to the epic - idd still say you are pretty damn lucky to do it - perhaps if its such an issue maybe sell your entry to some one else that would appreciate it more and take your yearly salary and spend it on beer or somethingSo let me get this right: if I scrape the cash together to do the Epic, I am not able to appreciate it as much as someone else who doesn't have to scrape the cash together to do it? If I am on the lower income tax bracket, then I am not as capable of enjoying the Epic as much as someone else who is at the top income tax bracket? WTF dude? Are you serious?
Heel Drop Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 So let me get this right: if I scrape the cash together to do the Epic, I am not able to appreciate it as much as someone else who doesn't have to scrape the cash together to do it? If I am on the lower income tax bracket, then I am not as capable of enjoying the Epic as much as someone else who is at the top income tax bracket? WTF dude? Are you serious?hold on let me just make some popcorn ..... Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
jcza Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 As I don't have a entry for 2017 I haven't looked at the route but I was fortunate enough to ride in 2016 and I can say that the route was indeed EPIC.
JohanMalan Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 This is my opinion, so feel free to disagree…But I think the 2017 Cape Epic route sucks…You are doing the Wine to whales backwards 2 and half times.... I understand that it is logistically much easier for the organizers to camp out in one spot and have the riders go round in circles . The entry fee is astronomical and the amount of riders and sponsors have multiplied three-fold since the Knysna years…So funds cannot be the problem …more riders more responsibility, I get it, but for heaven’s sake make it more interesting. Riding one wheat field to the next wheat field....Boring! What I loved about the other and earlier Epic races was the change of scenery and landscape. Been able to say I went from A to B and it took me 8 very hard days crossing various areas and terrain….not A-bbbbbb-CThat’s why the Tour de France have been such a huge success for so many years. Yes having live broadcasting helps , but the Idea of crossing so many borders and areas is what fascinates people. Its the emperor's new clothes story ---everyone love the Epic, me to...but this route suck for what you are paying. Maybe I am just pissed that I will have to spend my yearly income on a race that is held on a track that I can go ride for R50 per day all year round…(I am not racing in 2017) So please Mr Cape Epic route decider dude, for 2018 MIX IT UP A BIT….Dear MDK i am not a big Epic fan, but you have perhaps had a very brief look at the map of the 2017 route.It has very little in common with the w2w reversed. You perhaps guessed that they are in the same area and therefore go along the same route.If they share 1km of the same track in hemel en aarde in reverse, I would be surprised.Tesselaardsdal, Haarkapper and Stanford back to Hermanus is totally new.W2w skips almost all the hard parts of Hemel en aarde.There may be many reasons to dislike the 2017 Epic, but Old hat route won't be one of them.
Mohs Posted January 1, 2017 Author Posted January 1, 2017 Dear MDK i am not a big Epic fan, but you have perhaps had a very brief look at the map of the 2017 route.It has very little in common with the w2w reversed. You perhaps guessed that they are in the same area and therefore go along the same route.If they share 1km of the same track in hemel en aarde in reverse, I would be surprised.Tesselaardsdal, Haarkapper and Stanford back to Hermanus is totally new.W2w skips almost all the hard parts of Hemel en aarde.There may be many reasons to dislike the 2017 Epic, but Old hat route won't be one of them.Hi Johan, Fully agree with you. I am looking forward to see what Tesselaardsdal, Haarkapper and Stanford has in store and very exited about that. We have a beach house in that area and I don't know what is out there to ride, and that is why I like these races. I will admit that my moaning and stirring was more based on the Grabouw/Oakvalley side of things. I personally would have liked to see more regions covered, but its not up to me. But at least I can come to The Bike room and Stir things up a bit and get the blood pressure going...
Zebra Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 I rode the 2005, 2006 & 2007 Cape Epics. So I was keen to ride the 2015 edition, as a sort of 10-year-on celebration, etc! So I ran into Kenin Vermaak, back in late 2011or so, and seriously requested he at least CONSIDER a 'return' to the 'point-to -point Epic route, so the race itself could celebrate a return to how it all started... He explained that is was VERY unlikely to ever return to the point-to-point format... The logistics, the UNSEEN logistics, we're preventing the race from being profitable...By way of explanation... The water truck: to have the large International contingent NOT get upset stomachs/gippo guts, a water truck, carrying water, was dispatched daily from Cape Town (Pen Bev/Coca Cola plant) to provide the overnight camp with potable water.The logistics were mostly unseen, but the distances these trucks had to cover, as the race moved daily, was impressive, but uneconomical! A small example, admittedly, but I suspect the point-to-point transistor are a thing of history, and that other races may need to follow suit... CheersChris
dev null Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 When I do a multi-stage race, I prefer it to be an adventure. The current Cape Epic is just another race, not an adventure like the J2C and others.
Patchelicious Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 The average MTB likes ST because it gives them the oppertunity to feel like a Sauser without putting lots of training hours in.
waveduke Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 When I do a multi-stage race, I prefer it to be an adventure. The current Cape Epic is just another race, not an adventure like the J2C and others. When I enter a stage race, I want to race it.If I'm looking for an adventure, I'd plan my own trip and don't go the fully pampered event route.
SCD Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 When I enter a stage race, I want to race it.If I'm looking for an adventure, I'd plan my own trip and don't go the fully pampered event route. The daughter of my Epic partner was mocking us. We were not doing a real 'Epic' but just a 'baby-Epic' because there were people carrying our stuff from A to B and making us food. It would be a REAL Epic if we were to carry our stuff ourselves. I had to giggle a bit since this was how I grew up riding my bike...none of this papered racing nonsense but lugging my **** from A to B... in the late 90's two study mates of mine rode the Panamericana (some 20,000+km) unsupported spread over three summer breaks. Average 150km/day, then put up tent, cook food, take pictures and shoot video. 40-50days in a row. Crossing the Rockys and Andes how many times... Makes me smile thinking about out little Epic adventure/race, whatever ...we are just having some fun here
Duane_Bosch Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 For the same amount of money you can do a trip to the Alps for 10 days. Including plane tickets.
Baracuda Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 For the same amount of money you can do a trip to the Alps for 10 days. Including plane tickets. Indeed, the topic has been revisted time and time again. The Epic is now a glorified Grabouw ride, for the same money one can go to the Alps, Dolomites, Whistler etc etc, with far better trails.
adamjohnpike Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 Is there a link to the transcape website? Sent from my SM-N920C using Tapatalk
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