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wow

 

only 2 points from you reply worth responding too

 

see below

 

guess no double standards in the below

 

Erm, then why did he come and post it on a public forum.... asking him why rides an eBike is NOT a big deal.

 

Don't get involved in my discussions with other people, its frankly non of your business.

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Posted

wow

 

only 2 points from you reply worth responding too

 

see below

 

guess no double standards in the below

Maybe you need one of these.

 

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I even popped in a "frankly" for you to make it more obvious. I see you also didn't notice Ascensions sarcasm font.

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agree

 

South Africa has more important public issues than a dad riding an e bike with his son

 

so lets cut the dude some slack to manage his private affairs

 

He rode the eBike in public and then posted about it on a public forum, and I want to know why he is riding an eBike. I need to make sense of this.

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He rode the eBike in public and then posted about it on a public forum, and I want to know why he is riding an eBike. I need to make sense of this.

 he replied to a post about himself on a public forum

 

that fact doesn't mean he now needs to be whipped at dawn for defending himself and further denigrated on said public forum

 

but i don't think your issue is with him

 

i sense a deeper underlying issue with e bikes per se

 

its okay you can admit it

 

admitting is first part of healing and acceptance

Posted

Mambat some nice pics !

 

Clearly your son knows how to handle a bike.

 

 

 

 

Sorry, still "looks wrong" to see a kid on an ebike .... not meant as a shitty reply.  Just not something we are used to seeing .....

 

Buy hey, if it works for your family, GO for it.  Frankly, it is about getting out there, whatever your mode of transport.

 

 

 

 

PS - Our little one is turning 8 next month .... and the way his riding has improved over the last 2 years I may well have to get an ebike soon enough to keep up with him ...  :eek:

 

This whole post "looks wrong", as someone who enjoys riding with his kid it seems incredibly condescending to judge someone else doing exactly the same.

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That would be me............. and thanks for the compliment of being called thirty something :thumbup:

 

This would be my son and yes he has just turned 9..... you all welcome to come try keep up with him......

on the DOWNS :ph34r:

 

"I am SURE it can be "justified" .... but it just looked SO wrong seeing an able bodied kid on an ebike ......"

Pretty shitty remark mate????

 

Riding e-bikes together has vastly improved his skill set and his fitness. You try throwing around a bike

that weighs the same as you. My son weighs 26Kg his Giant Stance (Size small not junior-size?) weighs around 24Kg.

 

It has also allowed us to ride all the trails in the Durbanville Hills network. Unbelievable father and son time together where we both can compete like for like. I dont see many other eight year olds doing sub 3:50's

down the Cobra or wait............. see many eight years olds full stop on those trails.

 

And for the record my son has a dirt jump bike, bmx and a Giant Trance but the best times we have TOGETHER is on our ebikes.

 

ChrisF - Maybe come join us for an e-Bike ride.... You welcome to borrow my wife's and see if you can keep up? Both on the ups and the downs  :whistling:  :devil:  :whistling:

 

I warn you once you go E.... there is no turning back!

rad dude, i guess you're used to getting comments from peanut gallery!

 

is this the bike your kid has got?

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/za/bikes-stance-eplus-2019

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Agree with you, however the questions being posed here is should electric motorbikes be allowed on MTB trails?

 

 

electric Motorcycle is not an e-bike, so no.

 

I think someone alread touched on this. Motorcycle has a throtle

e-bike is an electric assisted bicycle.

Different in many ways and one of them requires licensing and homologation in terms of the Road Traffic act

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 he replied to a post about himself on a public forum

 

that fact doesn't mean he now needs to be whipped at dawn for defending himself and further denigrated on said public forum

 

but i don't think your issue is with him

 

i sense a deeper underlying issue with e bikes per se

 

its okay you can admit it

 

admitting is first part of healing and acceptance

 

After some introspection I came to the realization that I was traumatized by watching this South Park episode:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llt8rYCLd1Y

Posted

this is what s so wrong in south africa nowdays

 

everyone worrying about other peoples stuff

 

wanting to know about stuff that is private

 

what makes you entitled to ask him about his private stuff

 

your excuse that he doesn't have to answer is very weak

 

its frankly none of your business

 

You may get a fright if you joined us at our local trails, for coffee after the ride.

 

 

Riders talk to each other ... complete strangers strike up a conversation ....  I often speak to ebike riders.  Every single one that I spoke to have been nice people, and I enjoy hearing about the technology of their bikes.  What they like about what they have, and what they would buy next time.  

 

At no point has it ever been seen as "meddling" in others private business ....

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You may get a fright if you joined us at our local trails, for coffee after the ride.

 

 

Riders talk to each other ... complete strangers strike up a conversation ....  I often speak to ebike riders.  Every single one that I spoke to have been nice people, and I enjoy hearing about the technology of their bikes.  What they like about what they have, and what they would buy next time.  

 

At no point has it ever been seen as "meddling" in others private business ....

we also drink coffee after a ride here in gauteng

 

also speak to people whilst riding next to them on a ride or in a race

 

so do talk to fellow cyclists

 

my post wasnt directed at you

 

some guy asked the guy who rode the e bike a direct question of why he rides an e bike

 

i thought that direct question was out of line

 

and i still do

Posted

That would be me............. and thanks for the compliment of being called thirty something :thumbup:

 

This would be my son and yes he has just turned 9..... you all welcome to come try keep up with him......

on the DOWNS :ph34r:

 

"I am SURE it can be "justified" .... but it just looked SO wrong seeing an able bodied kid on an ebike ......"

Pretty shitty remark mate????

 

Riding e-bikes together has vastly improved his skill set and his fitness. You try throwing around a bike

that weighs the same as you. My son weighs 26Kg his Giant Stance (Size small not junior-size?) weighs around 24Kg.

 

It has also allowed us to ride all the trails in the Durbanville Hills network. Unbelievable father and son time together where we both can compete like for like. I dont see many other eight year olds doing sub 3:50's

down the Cobra or wait............. see many eight years olds full stop on those trails.

 

And for the record my son has a dirt jump bike, bmx and a Giant Trance but the best times we have TOGETHER is on our ebikes.

 

ChrisF - Maybe come join us for an e-Bike ride.... You welcome to borrow my wife's and see if you can keep up? Both on the ups and the downs  :whistling:  :devil:  :whistling:

 

I warn you once you go E.... there is no turning back!

 

Those last two pics have been flashing up in my minds eye again and again ...  :w00t:   :thumbup:

 

It reminds me of a friend who's son was riding motocross at that age.  He was ripping up the tracks and jumping - and having LOADS OF FUN.  But that was many decades ago ...

 

 

I still say it looks "wierd" to see such a young kid on an ebike - simply because we are not used to it ?  BUT, seeing those last two pics it is clear he USES the bike ...

 

 

So I am finding myself thinking, is this the "new thing" for kids ?  A sort of parallel to the kids that grow up on motocross bikes ?  Wondering how many other kids can ride ebikes this well ?

 

 

Clearly a new world that I am not privvy to .... but always ready to learn and expand my thoughts ....

Posted

Damage to the trails ... normal vs ebike ?

 

 

Look at the various YouTube videos ....

 

My OPNION is that the vast majority of damage results from dragging the wheels into the corners, and roosting the burms ....  BOTH bikes can enter these fast enough to lock the wheels ....  It is up to the rider to modulate the brakes to not damage the trails.

 

 

My OBSERVATION of the eriders I have encountered at Meerendal and Bloemendal is that they are so busy NOT upsetting other MTB riders that they dont lock brakes into corners.  Frankly I often see much worse behaviour from standard MTB riders on these trails ...

Posted (edited)

Those last two pics have been flashing up in my minds eye again and again ...  :w00t:   :thumbup:

 

It reminds me of a friend who's son was riding motocross at that age.  He was ripping up the tracks and jumping - and having LOADS OF FUN.  But that was many decades ago ...

 

 

I still say it looks "wierd" to see such a young kid on an ebike - simply because we are not used to it ?  BUT, seeing those last two pics it is clear he USES the bike ...

 

 

So I am finding myself thinking, is this the "new thing" for kids ?  A sort of parallel to the kids that grow up on motocross bikes ?  Wondering how many other kids can ride ebikes this well ?

 

 

Clearly a new world that I am not privvy to .... but always ready to learn and expand my thoughts ....

it is a new world

 

only barrier right now is cost

 

but there is a lot of misunderstanding about costs

 

sure a spez e bike goes for 110 k to 172 k for a top of the range

 

but a good affordable spez will cost about 80 k

 

in terms of giant a full suspension e bike goes for about 50 k

 

and the prices come down each year

 

pretty soon price will be closer to a normal bike

Edited by rorydewet
Posted (edited)

we also drink coffee after a ride here in gauteng

 

also speak to people whilst riding next to them on a ride or in a race

 

so do talk to fellow cyclists

 

my post wasnt directed at you

 

some guy asked the guy who rode the e bike a direct question of why he rides an e bike

 

i thought that direct question was out of line

 

and i still do

 

If by "some guy" you mean me... 

 

Actually the question was, and let me quote.

 

snip.

...... If its about your small son keeping up with you, why do you need an eBike too? Doesn't that counter the advantage it gives him?

 

Either you didn't see, didn't take the time too actually understand what I was asking, or you didn't get it, like the sarcastic posts.

 

And again, what I asked him is frankly none of your business. 

Edited by Patchelicious

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