Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

[Paddaman]

e-bike, motorbike, same thing......

[gummibear]

e-bike, motorbike, same thing......

 

[Eldron]

I'm sure someone posted this before me but I'm too lazy to check*

 

 

*if it was you you have my permission to send me a sternly worked PM.

 

The (motor) bike that nearly sank Cannondale: http://chainslapmag.com/2016/10/form-no-function-cannondale-moto-experiment/

 

[L.T.G]

e-bike, motorbike, same thing......

ridden both?

[Paddaman]

I'm sure someone posted this before me but I'm too lazy to check*

 

 

*if it was you you have my permission to send me a sternly worked PM.

 

The (motor) bike that nearly sank Cannondale: http://chainslapmag.com/2016/10/form-no-function-cannondale-moto-experiment/

Nice e-bike, when do we see it on the trails?

[Paddaman]

ridden both?

Both have motors, ergo, motorbikes.  The source of the fuel, electric or petrol is irrelevant.  As soon as there is a degree of energy capture, storage and then motorisation, it is no longer a bicycle.

The thing that makes bicycling the way it is is the directness of human effort to propulsion, having a battery/ fuel tank to store energy and a motor to supplement direct human effort makes it a different game altogether.

[Eldron]

Nice e-bike, when do we see it on the trails?

 

We won't - it was from 2013/2014 if memory serves. A failed experiment that nearly sank Cannondale. It was a miserable failure from start to finish and cost 'dale around $20,000,000!

[Eldron]

Both have motors, ergo, motorbikes.  The source of the fuel, electric or petrol is irrelevant.  As soon as there is a degree of energy capture, storage and then motorisation, it is no longer a bicycle.

The thing that makes bicycling the way it is is the directness of human effort to propulsion, having a battery/ fuel tank to store energy and a motor to supplement direct human effort makes it a different game altogether.

 

This has been discussed plenty - I agree with you.

 

Me feeling is that e-bike was coined by manufacturers to "fool" people into thinking of them as "enhanced bicycles" rather than motorbikes.

[IH8MUD]

Both with  pedals, both with motor,  neither is a bicycle. 

 

[L.T.G]

Both have motors, ergo, motorbikes.  The source of the fuel, electric or petrol is irrelevant.  As soon as there is a degree of energy capture, storage and then motorisation, it is no longer a bicycle.

The thing that makes bicycling the way it is is the directness of human effort to propulsion, having a battery/ fuel tank to store energy and a motor to supplement direct human effort makes it a different game altogether.

doesn't answer my question.

Anyway...

Your opinion (and that of the 2 posts above) and you're entitled to it.

 

 

 

But..... 

They're super ..SUPER... fun.

I get an incredible workout on mine,that I'm fortunate AF to have.

 

You should really just try one one day...

[Eldron]

doesn't answer my question.

Anyway...

Your opinion (and that of the 2 posts above) and you're entitled to it.

 

 

 

But.....

They're super ..SUPER... fun.

I get an incredible workout on mine,that I'm fortunate AF to have.

 

You should really just try one one day...

Of course it's fun - you can go twice as fast for the same effort!

 

I think general consensus and logic have won this debate - cool to use them on the trails or wherever you like - not cool to use them in races.

[Pure Savage]

Does it matter what you call it, people are getting onto trails, paying membership and making it more awesome for all concerned. Dont see any problem.

[Rigardt@Scott]

Both have motors, ergo, motorbikes. The source of the fuel, electric or petrol is irrelevant. As soon as there is a degree of energy capture, storage and then motorisation, it is no longer a bicycle.

The thing that makes bicycling the way it is is the directness of human effort to propulsion, having a battery/ fuel tank to store energy and a motor to supplement direct human effort makes it a different game altogether.

I think this thread should be locked for further comments. Can't imagine anyone can say anything that hasn't already been said/discussed.

[Dirt Tracker]

Is this non-argument still going? Nearly 1000 posts though. Impressive. 

[Patchelicious]

I think this thread should be locked for further comments. Can't imagine anyone can say anything that hasn't already been said/discussed.

Real men service their own electric motors and batteries, only sworks pussys send it in to the LBS for that!

[Eldron]

Real men service their own electric motors and batteries, only sworks pussys send it in to the LBS for that!

Real men recharge their own ebikes by riding on a power generating wattbike.

 

Recharging ebikes via wall socket is bad for the environment. Which is rarher ironic...