Patchelicious Posted June 30, 2017 Share Die tannie is kwaad vanoggend ... She obviously saw the thing about Sagan withdrawing. Bateleur1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted June 30, 2017 Share I know. . And yes it's unfair on you the organisers that work so hard and I am sorry for that, but I am so gatvol of them. I am gatvol that they get away with this, that they have only survived because they bully organisers and riders into buying licences and affiliation fees..they have done jack squat development..and they must not come with aah we sent riders to worlds. .that is not development..that is only sending youngsters into a competition where they are so outgunned because there has been bugger all development. Edit To add.. before my son got involved in hockey I probably wouldn't be so gatvol with CSA as what I am..but I see now what real development is at hockey youth level in our province ... and CSA are NOT developing cycling at youth level. .nothing nada bugger all Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk wait till you get involved with Athletics South Africa Pulse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted June 30, 2017 Share Fully agree with you.I am not saying the hockey is coming at no financial cost..it has been up an down all over the province and yes his upcoming tour is costing a bit. . But it is the opportunity they have been given..HP training almost once a week since Oct last year..proper coaching (which is free), nutritionist are available if need be...etc. and they have a plan. . A long term plan. Now we are starting to talk about development.. have CSA ever done anything like this (in recent times? Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Edited June 30, 2017 by Gen Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Bateleur1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bateleur1 Posted June 30, 2017 Share I am not saying the hockey is coming at no financial cost..it has been up an down all over the province and yes his upcoming tour is costing a bit. . But it is the opportunity they have been given..HP training almost once a week since Oct last year..proper coaching (which is free), nutritionist are available if need be...etc. Now we are starting to talk about development.. have CSA ever done anything like this (in recent times? Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Agree. You will be more "die moer in" if you see how things get done here. How much you can do with so little. I take for example the air gun shooting my daughter and I are doing here. We paid 40€ per year membership fees per person. My daughter gets her own rifle, she is supplied the kit (jackets etc) and it is reserved for her. We only pay 1€ per shooting exercise. They take the kids on tournaments (no extra costs), provide coaching. And the municpality helps with facilities. We are not even talking Soccer yet that gets huge funding. Pulse, Gen, Hairy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted June 30, 2017 Share Agree. You will be more "die moer in" if you see how things get done here. How much you can do with so little. I take for example the air gun shooting my daughter and I are doing here. We paid 40€ per year membership fees per person. My daughter gets her own rifle, she is supplied the kit (jackets etc) and it is reserved for her. We only pay 1€ per shooting exercise. They take the kids on tournaments (no extra costs), provide coaching. And the municpality helps with facilities. We are not even talking Soccer yet that gets huge funding. With our current exchange rate, thats like a bajillionty Rand! Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bateleur1 Posted June 30, 2017 Share With our current exchange rate, thats like a bajillionty Rand! With the current exchange rate that might be the price of a Cycle Tour entry (almost). Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted June 30, 2017 Share Agree. You will be more "die moer in" if you see how things get done here. How much you can do with so little. I take for example the air gun shooting my daughter and I are doing here. We paid 40€ per year membership fees per person. My daughter gets her own rifle, she is supplied the kit (jackets etc) and it is reserved for her. We only pay 1€ per shooting exercise. They take the kids on tournaments (no extra costs), provide coaching. And the municpality helps with facilities. We are not even talking Soccer yet that gets huge funding. With the current exchange rate that might be the price of a Cycle Tour entry (almost).that is less than a Tygerberg MTB Club Membership fee Gen, Bateleur1 and nonky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 30, 2017 Share I know. . And yes it's unfair on you the organisers that work so hard and I am sorry for that, but I am so gatvol of them. I am gatvol that they get away with this, that they have only survived because they bully organisers and riders into buying licences and affiliation fees..they have done jack squat development..and they must not come with aah we sent riders to worlds. .that is not development..that is only sending youngsters into a competition where they are so outgunned because there has been bugger all development. Edit To add.. before my son got involved in hockey I probably wouldn't be so gatvol with CSA as what I am..but I see now what real development is at hockey youth level in our province ... and CSA are NOT developing cycling at youth level. .nothing nada bugger all Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalkat the race I'm involved with, the majority of the riders are members of CSA, with 2.9% having been forced to buy a day licence, so yes the number may be small but as an organiser they are just as important as the members. We have a sanctioned event on Sunday, and there's no way we should be charging non members for a day licence. Watch this space! Gen, scotty, Zeffer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bateleur1 Posted June 30, 2017 Share that is less than a Tygerberg MTB Club Membership fee The equipment is not cheap. We had to replace the gas canister for two pistols the other day at just over 100€ a shot. The rifles and pistols are well over 1000€ a piece. Yet we are doing well and the youth development is doing very well. Edited June 30, 2017 by Bateleur1 Gen, Hairy, Wannabe and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkie 2 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Old, but interesting in retrospect. Even though the answers given is a bit ... http://www.treadmtb.co.za/beer-with-mike-bradley-general-manager-csa/Strange how he says in the article that one of the needs of calendar fees so to speak is to ensure your race does not clash with another one on the same weekend detracting numbers from other events? Funny they do not seem to get this entirely right. They need to look wider than just saying the event is in another province so it does not clash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkie 2 Posted June 30, 2017 Share Found this little article. . Dated 16/12/2013 https://cyclingdirect.co.za/cycling-south-africa-credit-due there is a link to the report in that article.. Sent from my SM-N9005 using TapatalkSame state of affairs it seems almost 4 years down the line? Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgens Smit Posted June 30, 2017 Share The equipment is not cheap. We had to replace the gas canister for two pistols the other day at just over 100€ a shot. The rifles and pistols are well over 1000€ a piece. Yet we are doing well and the youth development is doing very well. Shooting is just as ridiculous as cycling(cost wise). My dad and I went 50/50 on a 2nd hand Anschutz, bought it from a guy who's son showed promise but lost interest in the sport. Still ended up costing nearly 30k Bateleur1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDooperSnooper Posted June 30, 2017 Share Old, but interesting in retrospect. Even though the answers given is a bit ... http://www.treadmtb.co.za/beer-with-mike-bradley-general-manager-csa/All his answers are basically an admission of "actually we do sweet blue for your R35". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDooperSnooper Posted June 30, 2017 Share The **** just hit the fan if I am to believe a certain e-mail I just received!!! We are all still waiting, Sias! Not so concerned about the fan, but what **** and what email? RossW and Gen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted June 30, 2017 Share Agree. You will be more "die moer in" if you see how things get done here. How much you can do with so little. I take for example the air gun shooting my daughter and I are doing here. We paid 40€ per year membership fees per person. My daughter gets her own rifle, she is supplied the kit (jackets etc) and it is reserved for her. We only pay 1€ per shooting exercise. They take the kids on tournaments (no extra costs), provide coaching. And the municpality helps with facilities. We are not even talking Soccer yet that gets huge funding.Incredible Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted June 30, 2017 Share When did club and provincial structures fall away? And I don't mean just having a club, I mean like a club league? Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Edited June 30, 2017 by Gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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